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Old 02-08-2013, 11:52 PM   #31
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They should just leave 1/8 class ALONE!!!! Their new rules will not bring in more racers. It's just going to kill what's left of those whom are still willing to run the class.
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They should just leave 1/8 class ALONE!!!! Their new rules will not bring in more racers. It's just going to kill what's left of those whom are still willing to run the class.
+1 !!

- If you want to run 1/10 e-touring, just do it.
- Loud pipes makes noise, there's nothing wrong with that.
- There is nothing realistic in 1/12 or 1/8 onroad or 1/8 offroad, why should there be??

I see that we have the opposite problem. 1/8 onroad has always been the fastest class. Now all the time other classes get more and more speed and power. So actually we should be thinking how to make the cars even faster to keep our class the fastest there is!!!

Actually the bodies should be re-ruled because to get more speed on the straight because at the moment the 1/10NTC is faster on the straight because it has less drag. But the changes should be made without loosing the cornering speed. How to do it, you tell me???

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Actually the bodies should be re-ruled because to get more speed on the straight because at the moment the 1/10NTC is faster on the straight because it has less drag. But the changes should be made without loosing the cornering speed. How to do it, you tell me???

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Start by placing a full size carbon plate under the chassis with only holes for the tires and flywheel, then you can lower the body a lot.
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Start by placing a full size carbon plate under the chassis with only holes for the tires and flywheel, then you can lower the body a lot.
Why this has not been done? As far as I know it is not forbidden at the moment as far as it is part of the frame structure (ie. not only parts to make aerodynamics under the body)

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Why this has not been done? As far as I know it is not forbidden at the moment as far as it is part of the frame structure (ie. not only parts to make aerodynamics under the body)

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Because the slightest hit could knock you out of the race.

Also, ground effects opens up a whole new can of worms. Set-ups stop being about mechanical grip and instead place the emphasis on maintaining just the right ride height and attitude for aero grip.
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I have tested it and it works awesome but I doubt it will be faster, the high grip slows the car down keeping the engine in a more lowe rpm range below its powerband.
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Also, ground effects opens up a whole new can of worms. Set-ups stop being about mechanical grip and instead place the emphasis on maintaining just the right ride height and attitude for aero grip.
Well said. Thats about opening Pandora´s box.

It will change everyting, including the racing line, with curbs beeing an absolute nogo.

If everything is in place it would be faster, but a lot more difficult to drive, especially keeping that clean line during a whole race distance with traffic around you.
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I think if there were new rules, they should help to push new development in design, structure or materials to keep 1/8 onroad going faster, even if adding "fragile" components. At the end, races are about winning, not about surviving from crashes. If people are so afraid of breaking the cars, they should invest more in leveling up their driving technique instead of turning their cars into a tank.

If manufacturers are afraid of rookies breaking too much, why not make hard-plastic version of the chassis, easier for people to get into this class. Other classes have done this, why not 1/8 on road? Furthermore, this hobby has gotten much much less expensive than what we used to spent 10 years ago!

And about being "realistic", I personally think this is another way of holding RC cars back. Why do RC cars have to look like the ones we drive for daily life since we do not need to site inside them? The charm of RC car racing has always been the ability to go insanely fast in scale compared to the 1:1 counterparts. The elimination of a human sitting inside provides a lot more practical space to achieve higher cornering speed. There are already many other classes and chassis for people who like to play "realistic", but RC racing cars should look like they are built to RACE!
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They should just leave 1/8 class ALONE!!!! Their new rules will not bring in more racers. It's just going to kill what's left of those whom are still willing to run the class.
+1 they should just make a class for those who don't like our class and again people make comments but don't race if there were some body changes the same people talking still wouldn't race lets not give our enjoyment to those who try to make our demise this is not bash racing it is still high level competition
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And about being "realistic", I personally think this is another way of holding RC cars back. Why do RC cars have to look like the ones we drive for daily life since we do not need to site inside them? The charm of RC car racing has always been the ability to go insanely fast in scale compared to the 1:1 counterparts. The elimination of a human sitting inside provides a lot more practical space to achieve higher cornering speed. There are already many other classes and chassis for people who like to play "realistic", but RC racing cars should look like they are built to RACE!
Absoulutely agree!!
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I will quit racing rc if the new body design can cause my car become harder to drive. Please dont mix tamiya cars with mugen seiki, xray, etc. I have my good time with tamiya cars back then in 1994.

I think, most people join race event because for hobby and fun reasons. It will discourage some people from attending race event if their car become harder to drive.
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8th On-Road do NOT need to become harder to drive! And I don't want less down force I want more thank you!

I don't mind driving 200mm touring car which is much more difficult to drive than 8th, the down force of those cars isn't anything like 8th.. but they're very very quick in a straight line!

If people want to drive a low down force class that is harder to drive they need to drive 200mm touring cars.. The class is all ready there, don't screw up 8th scale it's been using Lola/Can-Am type wedge shells forever and that does not need to change!

If they want the cars to look more realistic go back to open cock pit Can-Am style appearance:





These were what the class was based on originally and they looked fantastic! and still do..
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This is the underview of the new P81 RS3 Electron, I wonder if this design or structure would be used for nitro chassis.


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Why this has not been done? As far as I know it is not forbidden at the moment as far as it is part of the frame structure (ie. not only parts to make aerodynamics under the body)

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Because the slightest hit could knock you out of the race.

Also, ground effects opens up a whole new can of worms. Set-ups stop being about mechanical grip and instead place the emphasis on maintaining just the right ride height and attitude for aero grip.
Pretty funny this subject pops up.

There will be some development on this subject pretty soon....
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With these body`s even i will think about racing 8 scale.
beautifulllll thank you dale.
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