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Old 09-11-2013, 01:02 PM   #166
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@Howard, I think that the cutaway was done for clarity of knuckle assembly.
As far as beam axles and kingpin support, I recall Cheetah making a beam front end for 1/10 scale pan cars that had a kingpin support


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Old 09-11-2013, 01:13 PM   #167
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Thanks for the photos, Scott!
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Do you have any idea why the first photo has the center section of the beam removed? It looks important to have it for impact strength.
That was someone's (NOT MINE ) modification. I don't like it strength wise but they may have felt it allowed them to adjust the arms for toe and caster individually more easily.
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Old 09-11-2013, 01:20 PM   #168
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I don't have the capability to machine the whole thing shown, but it should be possible to do something very similar with two long flat pieces separated by spacers.
The Original RC1 used two Flat pieces - top and bottom. Here are a couple of pics. The Hardware for the blocks is identical to the one piece. (The one piece was an upgrade and you used the existing blocks, screws etc)
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Old 09-11-2013, 01:48 PM   #169
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Thanks for the input, guys! This is all excellent to get my neurons firing.

The Cheetah front end is pretty!

The RC1 front end looks easy to build.
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The beam axle looks simple enough, but the weight concerns me. I'm also concerned about kingpin strength, since most beam setups don't support the top of the kingpin, although I suppose that could be included. (I'm currently planning on using 4mm or 3/16" kingpins and axles.)

It would be nice to use existing knuckles (and suspension arms, for that matter), but I haven't found anything that seems suitable. Failing that, I was planning on making knuckles from 3/8" square 6061.
I have a pic of it in the 2wd forum, if you need I can reload it here, but I basically carbon copied the front end of a Super Phaser (upgraded to 1/8 scale), then made adapters on the end to accept pretty much all 4wd front hub assemblies. The bulkheads are slotted with a screw, so I can get caster very quickly, and camber by adjusting the two ball screws in the hub assemblies. This allows us to use all current front tires, and the adapter should accept Kyosho/Mugen/Serpent/Edam hub assemblies with no problem. We've been running it all year, it's VERY solid, user friendly, and weighs very little (total weight including front tires about 250 g.) Best part is it's so simple, you could easily duplicate it if you have the aluminum.
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I have a pic of it in the 2wd forum, if you need I can reload it here, but I basically carbon copied the front end of a Super Phaser (upgraded to 1/8 scale), then made adapters on the end to accept pretty much all 4wd front hub assemblies. The bulkheads are slotted with a screw, so I can get caster very quickly, and camber by adjusting the two ball screws in the hub assemblies. This allows us to use all current front tires, and the adapter should accept Kyosho/Mugen/Serpent/Edam hub assemblies with no problem. We've been running it all year, it's VERY solid, user friendly, and weighs very little (total weight including front tires about 250 g.) Best part is it's so simple, you could easily duplicate it if you have the aluminum.
The super phaser (really liked that car) front end was pretty bulletproof. (course it was a 31 oz car) but as you say, easy to set caster and camber and the settings held.
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Old 09-20-2013, 09:27 AM   #172
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Thanks for the input, guys! This is all excellent to get my neurons firing.

The Cheetah front end is pretty!

The RC1 front end looks easy to build.
i see this thread kinda died out. i for one have been working when i can on a no frills car. first big hurdle is the clutch... the 13 tooth assosiated off road bell fits on the edam clutch. wanted too send pic no luck uploading
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Old 05-18-2016, 12:34 AM   #175
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Does anyone have plans for the RC100 or a Thorp chassis similar to it? I want to recreate the chassis here at home as a project to do with my kid. I don't need the motor info, just the rolling chassis info. Thanks in advance.
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Does anyone have plans for the RC100 or a Thorp chassis similar to it? I want to recreate the chassis here at home as a project to do with my kid. I don't need the motor info, just the rolling chassis info. Thanks in advance.
You may have some luck on FaceBook. Try the "Thorpe 1/8 Scale R/C Cars" and for "Associated RC100"

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