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Old 12-02-2002, 07:08 PM   #166
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Please note that I said around. I would say 1.7 would be closer. Most works drivers get all engines handed to them free and these have been tested to prove that they rev probably around 3 times as fast as the production engine.
This is really educational :-)
even if it's 2 times as fast it's got to be :

more than 60,000rpm
more than 2.5hp

not that I don't believe you . . but can some guru verify some of these facts pls ? smeltz . . anyone ?

In fact I find it somewhat bad that you buy an engine because it's advertised as 1.8hp and then suddenly you find out it's only 1.3hp
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Old 12-02-2002, 07:11 PM   #167
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1.8 NFW

1.45 at 39000 maybe on 40% fuel

I might get 1.55 out of one of a 9 port open eagle at 44
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Old 12-02-2002, 07:23 PM   #168
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they rev probably around 3 times as fast as the production engine.
Now I admitted I mistyped a 3 instead of a 2 but if you read it is does say 'probably around. I didn't at any time say it did.
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Old 12-02-2002, 11:10 PM   #170
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not that I don't believe you . . but can some guru verify some of these facts pls ? smeltz . . anyone ?

In fact I find it somewhat bad that you buy an engine because it's advertised as 1.8hp and then suddenly you find out it's only 1.3hp
Like I said previously, claimed 1.8HP is BS, a real number is about 1.35, slightly slower (only 0.02 sec slower) than my JP12 on my NTC3.

The great advantage of this motor are various: Easy to do carb tunning (carb needles work without flaw), pretty cheap and enough powerful to go pretty quick, maybe not have the grunt of a RTU, Smeltz, JP and other ported and modded engines.

BTW: It's alive.... It's alive (and don't get sucked by a turbocharger or anything else.)
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Old 12-03-2002, 02:50 AM   #171
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my disrespect has always been fake numbers and certainly not real racers . . . get what I mean . . .

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Old 12-05-2002, 10:24 AM   #172
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Smeltz, can you give me approx. the increase of horsepower of the mr12 stock then after you have done a full blown mod. I am very interested in your mod motors.
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Do you use a dyno or some other device to figure out the horsepower? What city and state are you located???
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Old 12-05-2002, 05:16 PM   #174
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What gets me is how outrageous the numbers are. I can see why they do it(duh). The other thing is trying to explain it to some of my idiot friends, it just bugs me when people so blindly beleive in advertising. That said; I'll probly add one to my inventory till I see at the track(only reliable dyno out there), it'll probly be on ebay shortly thereafter since my Piccos an RBs are still good for another season. It's more important to get the clutch,gearing, pipe, and tuning spot on than there is difference in motors. BTW Dennis; the TSRCAR points champ told me the fastest engine he had last year was from an asian mfr. What's up with that?
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Old 12-05-2002, 09:00 PM   #176
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I was curious, Dennis, if you have ever done work on .21 size engines? Cost not being an issue, which company ships their engines out with the parts most able to cope with modifications? Also, is there any truth to the HoBao Hyper .21 8 port being a knock-off of an RB design? I recently read a Taiwaneese article praising HoBao and their superb 2hp hyper engine, would you agree that it is a good engine to have modded by Smeltz? Or do you think a bottom of the line Rossi would be better, when it's peak rpm's are listed at 28,000, 10,000 lower than the Hyper's 38,000. Any help would be awesome, thanks! Ethan
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Smeltz are you there? Can you answer any of the questions I asked. Waiting for your reply
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I just wanted to say that i live down here in KC and a couple of buddies of mine run smeltz motors and they are pretty damn FAST! I plan on getting an MT12 done b4 next spring. SMELTZ i think u are doing a good job and i'll probably be emailing you within the next few weeks to set up a couple motor jobs.
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