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Old 09-21-2005, 10:56 AM   #676
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This car will be handled differently then the previous cars if your kit is purchased out of the country you will have to deal with that company if you have any problems with your kit, that means missing parts and or any warranty problems, we have come up with a system that shows the origin of purchase.
Kits purchase out of the country sometimes have differences within the kit we have noticed in the pass people calling and trying to get something that was never mint to be in there kit because of where it was purchased , like tires, pipes, or even engines.
So which country I should buy the kit if I want bumper to bumper warranty ? Or 3 years warranty ? j/k
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Old 09-21-2005, 10:59 AM   #677
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the one thing i don't like about the mtx4 is the bevel gear diff.it is more messy than a ball diff.and changing oil viscosity is a bit more tricky than just turning the screw.my .02
This theory is ok for electric but its old school technology in nitro ball differential tends to not hold up in nitro like gear diffs do they also tend to slip.
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So which country I should buy the kit if I want bumper to bumper warranty ? Or 3 years warranty ? j/k
LMAO thats a good won...............lol..............
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Old 09-21-2005, 11:07 AM   #679
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Looking at the car, i'm not too impressed, and I own a MTX3 prospec.

Positives: You can use a flat pack, which would help out with the balancing and CG of the car, but the battery pack is heavier than the AAA battery pack used on MTX3's. Also, the easy to remove front and rear diffs. Nice touch. Longer A arms is a plus as well.

Negatives: I really wonder how this car is that much better than an MTX3 prospec. Suspension geometry looks to be the same just with different size arms.

Now I'm not saying I won't buy the MTX4 since I am a loyal Mugen customer, but I really hope to see some good reviews of this car. I may wait to purchase the car in hopes of seeing how others like it. If it doesnt seem to be that much better than the MTX3 prospec, I'll wait for the MTX4 prospec, or get a RRR.
I understand your point but this car is designed to be faster not prettier Mugen normally tries to improve on all it's product on road and off road I hope this car meets yours and everyone else's acceptation's.
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Old 09-21-2005, 11:14 AM   #680
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I understand your point but this car is designed to be faster not prettier Mugen normally tries to improve on all it's product on road and off road I hope this car meets yours and everyone else's acceptation's.

Hi,

The MRX 4 also looks allmost the same as the MRX 3!
But the 4 is a faster car.

The same will be with the MTX 3 and 4.

Also you don't win a race by looking good.


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Old 09-21-2005, 11:18 AM   #681
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Also you don't win a race by looking good.


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But if you don't win, you should at least look good!
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Old 09-21-2005, 11:52 AM   #682
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Hi guys,

I'm shopping for a new car. I will buy in january/feb, build and break-in during winter and everything should be ready next may.

I'm considering the MTX4, the RRR, the 710 and the R40.

At first sight, after reading these pages and surfing a bit, I noticed these pros and cons for each:


MUGEN
good to excellent performance
relatively expensive
poor parts availability, long lead time on essential spares
poor web site/support

KYOSHO
excellent performance
very expensive
parts availability uncertain
poor web site/support

HPI
good to excellent performance
least expensive
excellent parts availability
excellent support and web site

SERPENT
good to excellent performance
relatively expensive
good parts availability
popular
decent web site

Your comments, please?
Thanks!
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MTX4 ! and I don't need to make comments.

Lets RRR, 710, R40 guys make the comments
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Old 09-21-2005, 12:09 PM   #684
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Mugen has good web site support.

Go to www.mugenracing.com. That's Mugen USA's site and you can even buy parts off the site.
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RC_Greg,

Quit sniffing those O'Donnell nitro fumes, dude. I guess that is the way it is in your area but this is how it is in my area:

Mugen
very good performance
relatively higher priced
excellent parts availability
satisfactory website/support

Kyosho
very good performance
very expensive
poor to non-existent part availability
below average support

HPI
good performance
least expensive
good parts availability
good website/good support

Serpent
very good performance
next to least expensive
non-existent parts availability
decent website/non-existent support

Mugen, Serpent were the flavors of choice until Ron Atomic went Kyosho. Now it is Kyosho, Mugen, then Serpent with a sprinkle of HPI. But with the new Mugen, Kyosho cars here are starting to be posted for sale like it is no one's business.
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Old 09-21-2005, 12:36 PM   #686
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Hi guys,

I'm shopping for a new car. I will buy in january/feb, build and break-in during winter and everything should be ready next may.

I'm considering the MTX4, the RRR, the 710 and the R40.

At first sight, after reading these pages and surfing a bit, I noticed these pros and cons for each:


MUGEN
good to excellent performance
relatively expensive
poor parts availability, long lead time on essential spares
poor web site/support

KYOSHO
excellent performance
very expensive
parts availability uncertain
poor web site/support

HPI
good to excellent performance
least expensive
excellent parts availability
excellent support and web site

SERPENT
good to excellent performance
relatively expensive
good parts availability
popular
decent web site

Your comments, please?
Thanks!
Sorry we got such a low rating from you, here in the US I would say it's different. How many companies in nitro have drivers attending club races on a weekly basic, and how many nitro companies have drivers posting like we do.
If Mugen parts are priced high at your local hobby store that is not our doing.
If you can't find Mugen parts at you local hobby store that is not our doing.
If anyone here ever needs help in finding the best deal on Mugen product you are more than welcomed to give us a call.
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Old 09-21-2005, 12:43 PM   #687
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Hi guys,

I'm shopping for a new car. I will buy in january/feb, build and break-in during winter and everything should be ready next may.

I'm considering the MTX4, the RRR, the 710 and the R40.

At first sight, after reading these pages and surfing a bit, I noticed these pros and cons for each:


MUGEN
good to excellent performance
relatively expensive
poor parts availability, long lead time on essential spares
poor web site/support

KYOSHO
excellent performance
very expensive
parts availability uncertain
poor web site/support

HPI
good to excellent performance
least expensive
excellent parts availability
excellent support and web site

SERPENT
good to excellent performance
relatively expensive
good parts availability
popular
decent web site

Your comments, please?
Thanks!
RC Greg would you by chance be a proud owner of a HPI car?
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[QUOTE=RC_Greg]"MUGEN
good to excellent performance
relatively expensive
poor parts availability, long lead time on essential spares
poor web site/support"QUOTE]


performance: mugen performance is excellent and it's very durable. you can have the fastest car out there but if it can't handle any bumps from another car or the board, it's not worth it. it can do what you want it to do as long as you know what you're doing. and of course, practice is the key as people always say.

price: competitive. the prospec may look expensive but if you were to buy a different car and upgrade it to the point where it compares to the prospec, you've probably spent more. if you were to compare the price, the stock mugen should be used for comparison because that's how the others come.

parts availability: i don't find it hard to get parts for the mugen. if it's not available locally, there's always online source like leemuse, ace, and mushroom just to name a few.

web support: mugen may not have mytsn like serpent but with so much mugen cars out there, it's always easy to find the starting setup for a particular track. the mugen team drivers to me personally are by far the most friendliest and helpful people out there if you were to attend a big race.
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LoL yeah we're working on the web thing.................
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I understand Robbie. Most likely (about 99.9% sure lol) I'll be buying the MTX4. I have no doubt that the performance of the car will be AT THE BARE MINIMUM, performance similar to my MTX3 prospec. Only time will tell on how much better the MTX4 is compared to an MTX3.

P.S Come on out to Sun Valley! I race there pretty much every Friday night. There's a group of regulars that race there Friday night. Next club race is this Sunday, which I was planning on attending, but I'll be leaving for San Diego thursday night. If you ever find some free time, meet up Friday night. I'd love to get beat by a pro. lol Seriously, if it were up to me, I'd race against pro's all day. That's the fastest way any one can improve their skills.


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