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Old 08-12-2006, 09:26 PM   #5761
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Sorry, I just notice this.

I don't glue them. It won't come off.
i dont spend 260 a year and i dont realy change it every 2 weeks just when i notice the clutch not right.now when you shim the shoe this changes the nut measurement, check this.
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Old 08-12-2006, 09:47 PM   #5762
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Guys:

The grey clutch shoe lasts quite a while on a sedan and retail is $7.49 for a new one. When it wears out, replace it.
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Old 08-12-2006, 09:49 PM   #5763
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and the yellow one dont wear that bad eether,just clean it. but the black well thats another story.
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Old 08-13-2006, 01:29 AM   #5764
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Hi Guys,

Ever since I moved up to MTX-4 I find it hard to setup the car to suit the track condition! Here is the following problem I had, and believed me I have changed all the necessary bits and adjustment just to make the car better

1. The car is very responsive (good), the car tend to have no grip in the middle of the turn (understeer)
2. The car is unstable during braking (rear tails to the right or left), I have reduced the brake but then there is not enough brake!
3. The car takes sometime to settle down be back on the power again!

I have tried different settings tire compound, front and rear droop, Harder and softer stabilizer.
NEED HELP DESPERATELY!!! Thanks
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Old 08-13-2006, 03:32 AM   #5765
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Hi Guys,

Ever since I moved up to MTX-4 I find it hard to setup the car to suit the track condition! Here is the following problem I had, and believed me I have changed all the necessary bits and adjustment just to make the car better

1. The car is very responsive (good), the car tend to have no grip in the middle of the turn (understeer)
2. The car is unstable during braking (rear tails to the right or left), I have reduced the brake but then there is not enough brake!
3. The car takes sometime to settle down be back on the power again!

I have tried different settings tire compound, front and rear droop, Harder and softer stabilizer.
NEED HELP DESPERATELY!!! Thanks
try running extra castor and also in the front roll centre run one and a half shims,both of which have given me improved steering,your brake issue try using the yellow pads as they are a lot smoother,but if you are running the one way braking is difficult,if your track is tight you can also try the locked front diff as this provides 4 wheel braking and mid corner steering is also good
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Old 08-13-2006, 03:43 AM   #5766
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try running extra castor and also in the front roll centre run one and a half shims,both of which have given me improved steering,your brake issue try using the yellow pads as they are a lot smoother,but if you are running the one way braking is difficult,if your track is tight you can also try the locked front diff as this provides 4 wheel braking and mid corner steering is also good
Ok, I have tried taking the shims off, but never try putting extra on it ( I thought it would give you more steering if you take it off it does just intial turn but the same thing udersteer in mid corner) good suggestion.
I had the blue pad ( big mistake ).
Front locked diff about to try that out
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Old 08-13-2006, 04:05 AM   #5767
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Ok, I have tried taking the shims off, but never try putting extra on it ( I thought it would give you more steering if you take it off it does just intial turn but the same thing udersteer in mid corner) good suggestion.
I had the blue pad ( big mistake ).
Front locked diff about to try that out
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If you took the shrims off from the front, you just increase the front roll centre.
CHOOKGB gave you the right advice by asked u to add more shims
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Old 08-13-2006, 08:29 AM   #5768
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where online can i buy these products they are made by M Mod in germany
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If you took the shrims off from the front, you just increase the front roll centre.
CHOOKGB gave you the right advice by asked u to add more shims
take shims out you lower RC add shims you raze RC to get more steering in mid corner take out shims try 1mm or no shims and in the rear lower arms try the high point and add drop in the rear to get forword roll.
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Old 08-13-2006, 08:35 PM   #5770
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Hi Guys,

Ever since I moved up to MTX-4 I find it hard to setup the car to suit the track condition! Here is the following problem I had, and believed me I have changed all the necessary bits and adjustment just to make the car better

1. The car is very responsive (good), the car tend to have no grip in the middle of the turn (understeer)
2. The car is unstable during braking (rear tails to the right or left), I have reduced the brake but then there is not enough brake!
3. The car takes sometime to settle down be back on the power again!

I have tried different settings tire compound, front and rear droop, Harder and softer stabilizer.
NEED HELP DESPERATELY!!! Thanks
try a diff if you use alot of break or try to set up the car so you only need the break to slow down or roll the weight to the front,and try 400 to 450 oil in the shocks
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where online can i buy these products they are made by M Mod in germany
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Hi Guys,

Ever since I moved up to MTX-4 I find it hard to setup the car to suit the track condition! Here is the following problem I had, and believed me I have changed all the necessary bits and adjustment just to make the car better

1. The car is very responsive (good), the car tend to have no grip in the middle of the turn (understeer)
2. The car is unstable during braking (rear tails to the right or left), I have reduced the brake but then there is not enough brake!
3. The car takes sometime to settle down be back on the power again!

I have tried different settings tire compound, front and rear droop, Harder and softer stabilizer.
NEED HELP DESPERATELY!!! Thanks
FIRST MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A TWEAK FREE SETUP.TWEAK WILL MAKE YOUR CAR DO STRANGE THINGS.HOW MUCH TOE OUT YOU RUNNING?THE MORE TOE YOU RUN THE MORE INITIAL TURN IN YOU WILL HAVE,BUT THE YOU GET A PUSH,IF RUNNIG TOO MUCH TOE OUT.ALSO TRY CHANGING YOUR DROOP IN THE REAR.LESS WOULD HELP THE CAR ROTATE BETTER
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FIRST MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A TWEAK FREE SETUP.TWEAK WILL MAKE YOUR CAR DO STRANGE THINGS.HOW MUCH TOE OUT YOU RUNNING?THE MORE TOE YOU RUN THE MORE INITIAL TURN IN YOU WILL HAVE,BUT THE YOU GET A PUSH,IF RUNNIG TOO MUCH TOE OUT.ALSO TRY CHANGING YOUR DROOP IN THE REAR.LESS WOULD HELP THE CAR ROTATE BETTER
not rotate but make the rear loose,loss of grip.
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take shims out you lower RC add shims you raze RC to get more steering in mid corner take out shims try 1mm or no shims and in the rear lower arms try the high point and add drop in the rear to get forword roll.
you RAISE front RC by taking the shims out.......
and you LOWER front RC by adding shims
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you RAISE front RC by taking the shims out.......
and you LOWER front RC by adding shims
sorry yes you guys are right.
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