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Old 02-07-2006, 10:46 PM   #3316
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H0707 is the black shoe. The colours are usually related to slip. A friend has tried red and says it's not useful. I've tried grey and the yellow. If grip is good, grey all the way. If the grip is not, yellow is nice as it allows a little slip. By slipping the clutch a little you reduce wheel spin.

Anyone try black? Is is harder or softer than the grey?
Hardest to softest
Black --> Gray --> Red --> Yellow
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Old 02-07-2006, 11:12 PM   #3317
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the mono/skyline one peice engine moutn fits the sirio evo3 and the nova based engines JP's etc just fine. i've used both. also i never striped a 2 speed gear. also use washers under the engine mount screw heads
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Old 02-07-2006, 11:13 PM   #3318
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I will tell you how I set up my clutch. This isn't going to be easy to describe in writing, but I will give it a try.

First, I usually run on tracks that have medium to high traction. I take the flyweights that come with the car and drill out the holes to 3.5mm.
Scott, an alternative I have found to drilling out the flyweights it to remove two of them. In other words, just use two instead of 4 flyweights. Of course, the remaining two flyweights must be opposite one another to ensure balance but the car seems a lot more responsive with only two flyweights. And of course if you don't like it, you can just put them back. Drilling is a one time deal. Don't like it and . . . . you need to buy new flyweights.

Talking about clutches, has anyone seen the KFactory UFO clutch for the G4 and RRR? I doubt there will be any Mugen as KFactory is related to TeamMagic. They seem to have an innovative approach to letting the flyweights move in and out when rotated though. For those who have not seen it, try this link and type UFO in the search window.

http://shop.the-border.nl

Not a bad shop. Prices are reasonable and if there is something I can't find somewhere else, the Border usually has it.

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Old 02-07-2006, 11:39 PM   #3319
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You could remove two, but I while I can't be sure that what I am going to say is true, I will tell you why I would rather drill the weights.

1st: The weights are under $10 at full retail if you have to replace them.
2nd: With all the weights in there the weight distribution, balance and pressure on the pressure plate is most even. (Don't know if this matters, but I know this works.)
3rd: In my case I am already running the spring quite tight so I know that I am not going to need the heavier weights.


While I know there are many people that drill out their weights, the person that actually was the one who told me to do it not only drills them out to 4mm (I was cautious and went to 3.1mm then 3.5mm) is one of the top nitro drivers in the world so I had a little faith in him.

If the two weight system works for you keep doing it. Innovation and new ideas come from all people. I have several clutch setups maybe I will try it for myself anyway.
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Old 02-08-2006, 01:33 AM   #3320
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Here is my MugenSeiki MTX-4 with option parts.
These are list of all option parts on my car. I also document the weight for all stock & option part.

• Engine Mount
o Stock 13 grams
o T0717 Aluminum 15 grams

• Screws
o Stock 64 grams
o T0809 & T0810 35 grams

• Receiver pack
o MugenSeiki 1000mAh 100 grams
o VRX 1000mAh with Voltage Regulator 45 grams

• Brake Disc
o Stock 5 grams
o Kawahara K-710 4 grams

• Front body mount base
o Stock 8 grams
o Kawahara K-860 7 grams

• Wheel hub
o Stock 2 grams
o Kawahara K-763 6 grams

• Front damper stay
o Stock 3 grams
o Kawahara K-857 1 gram

• Rear damper stay
o Stock 6 grams
o Kawahara K-858 10 grams

• Chassis
o Stock 99 grams
o Kawahara K-870 89 grams

• King Pins
o Stock (8) 28 grams
o H0187/1 15 grams

• Front anti roll bar holder
o Stock 4 grams
o Kawahara K-765 9 grams

• Front drive shaft
o Stock 21 grams
o T0245 Front universal set 21 grams

• Steering rod
o Stock 5 grams
o T0804 2 grams

• Turn buckle rod
o Stock 1 gram
o H0863 0 gram
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Old 02-08-2006, 03:00 AM   #3321
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Here is my MugenSeiki MTX-4 with option parts.
These are list of all option parts on my car. I also document the weight for all stock & option part.
Wow, very impressive Jay!!! Is that a brand new car too? So, what is the final weight of the car & do you now have to add anymore weight to make it legal? Thomas must be jealous now...

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Old 02-08-2006, 03:30 AM   #3322
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Wow, very impressive Jay!!! Is that a brand new car too? So, what is the final weight of the car & do you now have to add anymore weight to make it legal? Thomas must be jealous now...

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The total weight of the car without body is 1601 grams. Body is around 100 grams. I need to add other 24 grams to meet legal IFMAR. I’ll see you at Pre World, my hands are getting itchy now.
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Old 02-08-2006, 04:08 AM   #3323
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it΄s not a good idea to change the receiver pack. the mtx-4 need the weight of 5x 2/3 cells. we also have tested at our track and the car runs much better with 5x 2/3 cells.
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Old 02-08-2006, 04:27 AM   #3324
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The harder the clutch shoe the better the grab? I would think that a softer shoe would grab harder but faster wear.
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Snowy, you are just jealous. See you in the big class in 2 weeks. Can you bring some horse power this time?
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Snowy, you are just jealous. See you in the big class in 2 weeks. Can you bring some horse power this time?

nah man i'm not jelous i weighed my car at Jay's mine is 1610. these are old pics below. i added a transponder to my car and i am running the small bumper bar.

my car has blink blink on it snowy and it's only 10 grams heavier than Jay's also, mine is with the stock mugen chassis, so minus 10 grams of my weight and my car is equal with jays!!! i weighed it with fairly large tyres 59 ish mm in diamater
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it΄s very funny to see, what the people are doing with her cars

i think, there are only 4 changes necessary:

1. brakedisc
2. front anti bar holder
3. wheel hub
4. clutch shoe (yellow)
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it΄s very funny to see, what the people are doing with her cars

i think, there are only 4 changes necessary:

1. brakedisc
2. front anti bar holder
3. wheel hub
4. clutch shoe (yellow)

sorry boss. i forgot to read your manual to success my mtx4 is getting ready.....it will be an entrant in the Miss World pageant for 2006 i've got it doing some neat tricks with pigieons............. ("Seinfield" refrence)
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Old 02-08-2006, 07:27 AM   #3330
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you have to say... SIR! YES SIR! not boss
i only think that the mtx4 is a well done car and you need only these litte modifications to get a durable fast car.
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