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Old 02-06-2012, 06:49 AM   #1
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Default Is tire sauce legal in your country?

The season is about to start here in France, and I would like to know if in your country it is legal or not?

In France it's still not legal.
In Italy it is legal.

What about your country?

PS: I don't want to know if it's good or not, we allready discussed that in an another thread.
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Old 02-06-2012, 07:38 AM   #2
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The season il about to start here in France, and I would like to know if in your country it is legal or not?

In France it's still not legal.
In Italy it is legal.

What about your country?

PS: I don't want to know if it's good or not, we allready discussed that in an another thread.
Illegal in nitro 200mm and 1:8 in Australia according to AARCMCC
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Illegal in Holland for both 1/10 and 1/8 nitro classes.

Also Germany is against it.
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hate it.. i think its illegal here but i dunno if it is enforced in my land..
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Illegal in Spain for 1/10 class (1/8 don't know)

Look at this: http://www.redrc.net/2012/02/clean-tyres-no-additives/
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Old 02-06-2012, 08:56 AM   #6
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I agree with you wich say don`t use it but there will be a list from the EFRA with the approved additive`s i think. So everyone can diside on their own.

The EFRA has ruled the following;

Dear Sportfriend,
At the last EFRA AGM the decision was made to allow tire treatment in a controlled way for 1/10th and 1/8th
Track. With ”controlled” we mean that tire additives can be used as long as they are not volatile and toxic.
Verification will be done with EFRA equipment at the major races that is capable of indentifying volatile and toxic
products (most proberly equipment from RAE) at the entrance op the pitlane. Who ever comes with tires to the
pitlane that alarms our equipment will be send back to change his tires.
We also made an agreement that the organizer of an EFRA event must do everything to create grip as much as
possible, making the need and use of tire treatment less or even ”zero”.
We also promised to make a list with tire additives that are allowed.
So if you are selling a tire additive product that is not volatile and not toxic you are kindly requested to send us a
sample so we can check it. According to the European Regulations you must also have a Material Safety
Datasheet ( MSDS ) from the product you are making or selling. So together with your product we need that
Datasheet as well.
Once approved it will be put on the list
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As far as I know, ROAR has no rule against it, So, Legal in North America!
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I agree with you wich say don`t use it but there will be a list from the EFRA with the approved additive`s i think. So everyone can diside on their own.

The EFRA has ruled the following;

Dear Sportfriend,
At the last EFRA AGM the decision was made to allow tire treatment in a controlled way for 1/10th and 1/8th
Track. With ”controlled” we mean that tire additives can be used as long as they are not volatile and toxic.
Verification will be done with EFRA equipment at the major races that is capable of indentifying volatile and toxic
products (most proberly equipment from RAE) at the entrance op the pitlane. Who ever comes with tires to the
pitlane that alarms our equipment will be send back to change his tires.
We also made an agreement that the organizer of an EFRA event must do everything to create grip as much as
possible, making the need and use of tire treatment less or even ”zero”.
We also promised to make a list with tire additives that are allowed.
So if you are selling a tire additive product that is not volatile and not toxic you are kindly requested to send us a
sample so we can check it. According to the European Regulations you must also have a Material Safety
Datasheet ( MSDS ) from the product you are making or selling. So together with your product we need that
Datasheet as well.
Once approved it will be put on the list
Yeah baby go for it and be happy. I think you should even drink that shit, at least a liter per day!
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It's strictly illegal in Germany!

Switzerlnd just started this campaign:



http://www.redrc.net/2012/02/clean-tyres-no-additives/
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As far as I know, ROAR has no rule against it, So, Legal in North America!
Is legal through ROAR, But to the Race Director, and use on carpet Just as long as it doesnt leave residue or mark on carpet. ROAR follows All Bodies of RC Racing including IMFRA & EFRA, So I geuss it depend on the Race Director.
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Great Idea from swiss drivers!!
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Old 02-06-2012, 10:19 AM   #12
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There's even a facebook page!!

http://www.facebook.com/groups/123080834481726/

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I agree with you wich say don`t use it but there will be a list from the EFRA with the approved additive`s i think. So everyone can diside on their own.
I think you misunderstood the question. That is no answer to the question....

But how far do you to go? As mentoned by me many times with 1 bottle of stuff you are not there, the war on additives has just started:
http://www.redrc.net/2012/02/futura-wet-tyre-additive/

Be happy and fill one hauler bag full with all additives you can get and try to get the right one in just 4 hours of training you have on the saturday. And most of all, be not be supprised if you are the only one still driving.
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Is legal through ROAR, But to the Race Director, and use on carpet Just as long as it doesnt leave residue or mark on carpet. ROAR follows All Bodies of RC Racing including IMFRA & EFRA, So I geuss it depend on the Race Director.
How "Silly of Me", (I'd Love to run my Nitro TC or !/8 Nitro Open Onroad/Foam Tired Cars, Indoors, on Carpet, ANYTIME......W/or W/out Tire Sauce ! would "beat the Snot out of WGT" ) That's also up to the Race Director.
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Old 02-06-2012, 12:44 PM   #15
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I don't get why this subject is such a big deal in nitro racing? Is it for health issues, Cost, Complexity of picking a sauce?

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