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Old 02-06-2012, 01:48 PM   #16
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I don't get why this subject is such a big deal in nitro racing? Is it for health issues, Cost, Complexity of picking a sauce?
The simple answer would appear to be YES to the above. I recommend Paragon for all racing conditions and Captain Morgans SILVER spiced rum for all beverages(except tea, gives me terrible heart burn).
To clarify the ROAR rules regarding this issue...
7.3.8 The use of commercially available traction compounds and/or tire cleaners at
any ROAR event is at the discretion of the Race Director and any bans or
special requirements must be disclosed in advertising, on race entry forms, and
in track rules.
At carpet races, tire cleaners and traction compounds that can coat the track
are not allowed.
7.3.8.1 For health and safety reasons, diesel fuel, and any personally developed
traction chemicals and/or tire cleaners are not allowed at any ROAR event.
So enjoy your sauced beverage while your saucing your tyres.
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Old 02-06-2012, 09:40 PM   #17
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I don't get why this subject is such a big deal in nitro racing? Is it for health issues, Cost, Complexity of picking a sauce?
As Drew says: "all the above"... But the real problem is policing the ban. Exotic sniffers, impounding, gentleman's agreements all are less than perfect solutions being talked about.

If, as I suspect, the sauce increases tire wear as it increases traction, I would think not allowing tire changes may make some sense. I think the cars need to be slower and cheaper to have any chance of growing the class and this would be in the right direction....
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if you need traction compound for foam tires in nitro racing IMO you dont belong on the track. You should go home and play Mario cart
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Old 02-06-2012, 11:16 PM   #19
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The season is about to start here in France, and I would like to know if in your country it is legal or not?

In France it's still not legal.
In Italy it is legal.

What about your country?

PS: I don't want to know if it's good or not, we allready discussed that in an another thread.
South Africa - Not legal .....
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The EFRA has ruled the following;

Dear Sportfriend,
At the last EFRA AGM the decision was made to allow tire treatment in a controlled way for 1/10th and 1/8th
Track. With ”controlled” we mean that tire additives can be used as long as they are not volatile and toxic.
Verification will be done with EFRA equipment at the major races that is capable of indentifying volatile and toxic
products (most proberly equipment from RAE) at the entrance op the pitlane. Who ever comes with tires to the
pitlane that alarms our equipment will be send back to change his tires.
My concern with this rule is whether compounds used for servicing/cleaning the car (brake clean, denatured, ect) are going to set the sniffer off with a legal set of tires on the car. Time will tell I guess.
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Italy
legal for 1/10 and 1/8 on road since last 1/8 on-road World championship
No issue about type of sauce..

Not legal for 1/8 GT class.
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Old 02-07-2012, 10:09 AM   #22
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legal for 1/10 and 1/8 on road since last 1/8 on-road World championship
No issue about type of sauce..
Yep, that's exactly the problem.

You are spoiling it for all others. Great Job!!
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since the electric division already use it, won`t it pick up from the track if you have a race the weekend the electric have practised or raced??

Does anyone have experience with it since it is new for this year.
I race in the Netherlands and the specific rules still has to come in with the licence for this year. Since the EFRA with its infinite wisdom has decided it is to the national organisation to follow it or not. I favor for NOT using, with a gentleman agreement.
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Slovenia - not legal in all nitro classes!

By the way, we are starting with this project: alpe-adria-cup.yolasite.com

Applying additive is too complex for the most of drivers, that's why people are stopping racing.

With Monotyre, Park ferme and Limited tyre regulation all the drivers have the same oportunity.

We want drivers to have FUN !!!

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My concern with this rule is whether compounds used for servicing/cleaning the car (brake clean, denatured, ect) are going to set the sniffer off with a legal set of tires on the car. Time will tell I guess.

That's what I'm concerned about. Also forget running the same tires for more than one run..
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if anyone is interesting,one friend said that in albania is legal.
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and what about greece?

Any one knows in Japan, thailand, etc??
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and what about greece?

Any one knows in Japan, thailand, etc??
Romain..

Femca rule for 1:10 - The only rule in 1:8 was that tyre must be BLACK!

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Romain..

Femca rule for 1:10 - The only rule in 1:8 was that tyre must be BLACK!
To make sure I understand, it's legal in 1/8 and illegal in 1/10

And in 1/8 was it used or not so much?
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To make sure I understand, it's legal in 1/8 and illegal in 1/10

And in 1/8 was it used or not so much?
Romain, I took a quick look at the FEMCA rules and there was no mention other than the tyre had to be BLACK in the 1:8. The additive rule was for 1:10
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