Go Back  R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Nitro On-Road
Serpent Cobra GT >

Serpent Cobra GT

Community
Wiki Posts
Search
Like Tree99Likes

Serpent Cobra GT

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 09-27-2017, 05:37 AM
  #2476  
Tech Master
 
UrabusDenis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Croatia
Posts: 1,008
Default

Did anyone encounter a crack in the fuel tank of the Cobra GT? My old tank was leaking and it sourced it to a small but noticeable crack on the top, near the spring of the lid (on the exhaust side). I bought a new one a month ago but I'm already noticing a very small crack starting to develop on the exact same place? Is this a known issue? I am using a extension zip tie to open it with the body on, it might be a bit extra force but I am surely not the only one using it. I am strongly considering switching to another tank of similar dimensions.
UrabusDenis is offline  
Old 09-27-2017, 08:02 AM
  #2477  
Tech Master
 
UrabusDenis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Croatia
Posts: 1,008
Default

Here are the pictures. The first one is the first tank, I had major tuning issues so I filled the tank with alcohol to see if it leaks. I noticed it leaked from that crack, so I bought a new one.



first tank


And after one race and a few short practice days, I couldn't believe when I saw seemingly the same crak on the new one??? It still works fine but is it a matter of time? I am really very mad and hugely dissapointed in the design quality of this part



second tank




second tank, up close
UrabusDenis is offline  
Old 09-27-2017, 11:43 AM
  #2478  
Tech Elite
iTrader: (27)
 
dan_vector's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 4,332
Trader Rating: 27 (100%+)
Default

Maybe you are pulling the tank lid too hard? I’ve never seen this in 4 GT cars and 2 811 truggies I’m Racing every weekend. The 125cc tank in the 811 buggies I have which are the same lid design haven’t cracked either. Seems very strange that no one else has this issue.

Try speaking to your serpent importer to see what they say but honestly I don’t believe there is anything wrong with the tank design. It hasn’t changed for years and has been absolutely fine.


Originally Posted by UrabusDenis
Here are the pictures. The first one is the first tank, I had major tuning issues so I filled the tank with alcohol to see if it leaks. I noticed it leaked from that crack, so I bought a new one.



first tank


And after one race and a few short practice days, I couldn't believe when I saw seemingly the same crak on the new one??? It still works fine but is it a matter of time? I am really very mad and hugely dissapointed in the design quality of this part



second tank




second tank, up close
dan_vector is offline  
Old 09-27-2017, 02:14 PM
  #2479  
Tech Adept
iTrader: (7)
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 209
Trader Rating: 7 (100%+)
Default



When fully screwed in, I have 2mm gap left over and can't tighten bolt down onto shock tower.



Screwed out- as you can see the smooth section of the screw is the culprit. When screwed into the shock extension mount, the smooth non threaded part hits the threaded interior of the mount. Will not screw in any further.
Cilal is offline  
Old 09-27-2017, 02:19 PM
  #2480  
Tech Adept
iTrader: (7)
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 209
Trader Rating: 7 (100%+)
Default

If anybody has any ideas it would be much appreciated I really wanna give this new geometry a go this weekend �� The shorter extensions are perfect as the screw is threaded all the way. I can't use the old shock mount extensions as they are too thick to fit the holes on these, otherwise I would use the old.
Any help is much appreciated, I hope it makes sense now.
Cilal is offline  
Old 09-27-2017, 02:21 PM
  #2481  
Tech Adept
iTrader: (7)
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 209
Trader Rating: 7 (100%+)
Default

The only thing I can think of is serpent 3.1 upgrade that I got has got two incorrect screws.. Do they make the 3x30mm with a thread all the way? Otherwise if this was the same screw everybody received, then I'm sure many others may have had the same issues as me and would probably have been mentioned on here by now.
Cilal is offline  
Old 09-27-2017, 03:39 PM
  #2482  
Tech Elite
iTrader: (27)
 
dan_vector's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 4,332
Trader Rating: 27 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by Cilal


When fully screwed in, I have 2mm gap left over and can't tighten bolt down onto shock tower.



Screwed out- as you can see the smooth section of the screw is the culprit. When screwed into the shock extension mount, the smooth non threaded part hits the threaded interior of the mount. Will not screw in any further.
Just use shorter M3 dome or cap head screws. That’s what I have on my car. Use the stock screws to mount the shocks. Mount the standoff’s in the same way as the 3.0 standoff’s. use the same screws.
dan_vector is offline  
Old 09-27-2017, 03:43 PM
  #2483  
Tech Elite
iTrader: (27)
 
dan_vector's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 4,332
Trader Rating: 27 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by Cilal
The only thing I can think of is serpent 3.1 upgrade that I got has got two incorrect screws.. Do they make the 3x30mm with a thread all the way? Otherwise if this was the same screw everybody received, then I'm sure many others may have had the same issues as me and would probably have been mentioned on here by now.
Look at the photos here. It’s clear how to mount the new standoff’s. just use the existing shock mount screw and use dome head M3 screws to mount the standoff to the shock tower. I think I use M3x10.

Serpent Model Racing Cars - Product - Upgrade set suspension 811 GT - Images
dan_vector is offline  
Old 09-27-2017, 05:15 PM
  #2484  
Tech Adept
iTrader: (7)
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 209
Trader Rating: 7 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by dan_vector
Look at the photos here. It’s clear how to mount the new standoff’s. just use the existing shock mount screw and use dome head M3 screws to mount the standoff to the shock tower. I think I use M3x10.

Serpent Model Racing Cars - Product - Upgrade set suspension 811 GT - Images
No probs thanks.
Can you confirm in those photos is it long stand off at front shock tower and short at rear shock tower?
Cilal is offline  
Old 09-30-2017, 08:04 PM
  #2485  
Tech Adept
iTrader: (7)
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 209
Trader Rating: 7 (100%+)
Default

Dan could you tell me if you're running longer top shock supports on rear or front? As far as I can see in the photos of the like you send, both front AND rear are the longer ones. Very confused ��
Cilal is offline  
Old 10-01-2017, 12:48 AM
  #2486  
C@T
Tech Adept
 
C@T's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 191
Default

Originally Posted by Cilal
Dan could you tell me if you're running longer top shock supports on rear or front? As far as I can see in the photos of the like you send, both front AND rear are the longer ones. Very confused ��
The long ones are for the front, the short ones for the rear. The opposite way there is no clearance for the front shock.

There are two easy ways to fix the problem with the screws delivered:

1. Take 3.2mm drill and carefully remove about 2mm of the thread from the backside.

2. Use a shorter screw from the backside and the short one from the previous version to fix the shock. Make sure to use a screw that is not completely threaded towards the end for a better fit in the shock tower.

I prefer version one as the self tapping nut to fix the shock is the better solution for later on maintenance.
C@T is offline  
Old 10-01-2017, 01:54 AM
  #2487  
Tech Adept
iTrader: (7)
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 209
Trader Rating: 7 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by C@T
The long ones are for the front, the short ones for the rear. The opposite way there is no clearance for the front shock.

There are two easy ways to fix the problem with the screws delivered:

1. Take 3.2mm drill and carefully remove about 2mm of the thread from the backside.

2. Use a shorter screw from the backside and the short one from the previous version to fix the shock. Make sure to use a screw that is not completely threaded towards the end for a better fit in the shock tower.

I prefer version one as the self tapping nut to fix the shock is the better solution for later on maintenance.
Thanks for the response. That's what I thought! my front shocks were catching, but then others have said their front wasn't catching (I dunno how) and they thought that the rear was meant to be longer to make up the offset in the new lower mounts. It made sense too. Maybe both should be extended?? I also noticed that with the longer mounts on the front, my shocks (when viewed from the side) are now at 90 degrees to the front arms, so as to say they are perfectly lined up to take the shock as opposed to being laid back with the front tower.

I also much prefer the older mounts too, but the new towers have smaller holes so can't use them. the old seem More sturdy and much easier to take off for maintenance. I wonder if serpent will rectify the issue regarding the 30mm screw having too much flat on the new one.

I ended up not trusting myself to drill out the shock mount, and went with a shorter screw for the tower side & the original screw for the other.

Thanks again.

Last edited by Cilal; 10-01-2017 at 01:35 PM.
Cilal is offline  
Old 10-02-2017, 12:05 AM
  #2488  
Tech Adept
 
wkloppen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Bussum, The Netherlands
Posts: 210
Default Braking clutch springs

Gents,

Why do the clutch shoe springs brake almost every time you race the car?
We're running the RTR Serpent with the standard 3 shoe clutch. All the participants suffer from braking clutch springs. it doesn't matter whether you run the alu'or the carbons, they just brake almost everytime you race.

Is this a common problem? Bad design?....does the 4 shoe clutch have the same problem? Do I need to buy a different brand of springs?

any advice would be helpfull....

w.
wkloppen is offline  
Old 10-02-2017, 01:00 AM
  #2489  
Tech Adept
iTrader: (7)
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 209
Trader Rating: 7 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by wkloppen
Gents,

Why do the clutch shoe springs brake almost every time you race the car?
We're running the RTR Serpent with the standard 3 shoe clutch. All the participants suffer from braking clutch springs. it doesn't matter whether you run the alu'or the carbons, they just brake almost everytime you race.

Is this a common problem? Bad design?....does the 4 shoe clutch have the same problem? Do I need to buy a different brand of springs?

any advice would be helpfull....

w.
I really don't know sorry. I had one set of springs that lasted hours of use. I'm
Only just into my second springs as I wanted stiffer. This is rtr.
So far no troubles with 4 shoe kit clutch either. Really sorry mate I don't know!
Cilal is offline  
Old 10-02-2017, 02:09 AM
  #2490  
Tech Adept
 
wkloppen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Bussum, The Netherlands
Posts: 210
Default

Originally Posted by Cilal
I really don't know sorry. I had one set of springs that lasted hours of use. I'm
Only just into my second springs as I wanted stiffer. This is rtr.
So far no troubles with 4 shoe kit clutch either. Really sorry mate I don't know!
..


No worries...good to hear at least you experience no problems with the 4 shoe so we might go there as well
wkloppen is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.