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Old 10-23-2003, 02:52 PM   #526
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COME ON GUYS !!!, it exist specific forum threads for sales !!
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Old 10-23-2003, 07:28 PM   #527
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Yeah get outta here with GT4 FS. The photos he took of it are really crappy anyway. Who would pay 150 bucks for that nowadays? And just what the heck is in those parts bags? I don't want to know, I've already have 4 GT4's.

Yikes! The GT4 has come a long way hasn't it? Do you have any more pictures of the original car? I wonder how long they went that way. What year was that 190 version? I can't believe they had the side belt on the right pulleyed off the 1 speed tranny too.
That must have been why my original radio plate had a hole in it.
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Old 10-23-2003, 10:05 PM   #528
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Here's a couple more...... feast yours eyes.
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the yok gas touring came out around the early 2000s
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Old 10-24-2003, 07:57 AM   #531
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hi tom i checked out the race report @RCZONE and it seems that they have nice coverage of the races outside the u.s. it mentioned that masami finished 8th due to a broken belt but from what i heard he was leading up until till he broke the belt.

tabushi I noticed they do a lot of rubber tire racing in your
area. Is foam tire class getting popular as well.
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I know you didn't ask me but heres my 2cents. Most people around here prefer to run foams. Even indoor electric. Aparantly some other clubs out there around here they run spec rubber classes, but no one asked me for our track. I have always run foam on my cars. I haven't even tried rubber. From what I hear rubber wears out (lifespan) quicker than foam on our wide open large tracks out here. Check out the Midwest Series classes and race reports. www.myrcworld.net/midwestseries.

For the smaller tracks that only run sedans, there is a tendancy to race rubbers.
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yeah i agree with you on the life span on foam vs rubber tires.
Thats why I can't figure out why its not used more often in
organized races out side the u.s. for example I was planning
on racing in the phillipines while on vacation and read some
of the classification. heres how they split it.

stock sedan=sedan body, rubber tires, with 3port non turbo.

out law= lola body, foam tires, turbo plug and multiport allowed.

so to run foam i would have to run against outlaw cars with
lola bodies.
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On the track that i usually run here in Brazil, and in general all the tracks down here in Sao Paulo - Brasil, the consumption of foam tires its EXPONENTIALLY higher than with rubber tires. One of the main reasons why only the nationals here in Brazil are with foam tires its the cost and high consumption of foams.

For example, on the SAME TRACK (http://www.rcperformance.com.br/corridas/pista-sp.html). i use 3x the number of tires with foam than with rubber during the whole weekend ... (foams are usually ellegy or mugen fast tires and the rubber ones usually sorex, take off or Pro BR).
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Old 10-24-2003, 02:55 PM   #535
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This doesn't make much sense. The surface you run on is about the same as ours here. Isn't ashphalt ashphalt?

Do you guys use anything to treat the surface of the track?

Sugar? VHT? Soda+ Castor+ Alcohol?

Is it Sealcoated? If you sealcoat your track, tire wear with foam goes way way down. On sealcoated tracks (there are 2 that I go to) foam is pretty much the ONLY thing that works. Perhaps thats why we run foam only. On ashphault which is very abrasive, perhaps rubber compounds will last longer than foams.

When we use VHT, by the time a lot of cars run on the track, tire wear goes down, and Traction is always good.

On tracks with just ashphalt, no treatment, it takes a lot of cars running foam to wear into the surface before traction goes up and tire wear is down. If it rains, then start all over again. This was the case at the 1/8th worlds in Cincinnati which I did get to see (No, I didn't get any pics of the Venuzualian, but she did stand right next to me for while).
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What I have noticed is that people tend tu run softer foams thinking that they will get better traction. I have run 45s in the front and 42s in the rear all year and have as much traction as people runing 40 37. I also think the cars works better with a smalle split, I have seen people runnin 45s 35s, and to me its just a waist of foam. I like to suit the car to the track, and not change tires, instead change the suspension.

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Old 10-25-2003, 09:21 AM   #537
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Masami and other Yokomo team drivers are using brand new prototype 200mm nitro car at JMRCA... pic please
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Old 10-26-2003, 04:47 PM   #538
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Default Are nitro TC's going to be SD in the future?

I guess the rumors will be flying for a while, and I love discussions on rumors (my own job being excluded of course) It seems like more and more manufacturers are jumping on the SD bandwagon, now with Kyosho (FW-05R) and Mugen (msx3)

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Their [Kyosho] V-one-RR Evo is now already on the third generation is looking stronger. Several months ago, they launched a brand new 200mm shaft driven tourer, FW-05R designed by Takashi Miyashita

If Masami is behind the next gen of Yokomo Nitro TC, what do you think the chances are its going to be a SD? Its sucess was proven in electric, but for nitro many feelings out there are mixed (a lot of ntc3 drivers switched back to belts). My guess is they are probably experimenting with both, and Masami is going to further develope the best of the two designs. IF thats the case, my faith is totally in Masami.

Below is a pic of the new Kyosho FW-05R. Interesting how the pipe is on the RH side. I didn't know there's manifolds out there like that! It looks like a side exhaust engine is almost impossible for this car without some major manifold modifications. It probably a lot more central alignment of the motor, but I'd hate to have to change spur gears on this thing! I never really figured out how the Nitro TC3 handled the offset balance of the motor weight coupled with the torque of the motors. Look how forward the tank is and the throttle servo is all the way in the back.



And the Mugen MSX3...


I thought I'd post the NTC3 photo for a side by side comparison. Although we've all seen one of these before (hopefully in the rearview mirror).


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Wanted to get the pulse of the Yokomo Nitro Sedan from the people that would know the owners...I race a Yok SD and like it. May look at getting into Nitro for next racing season. Never hear much about the yokomo nitro car and know that a hopped up version is now out. For a person that is new to nitro...(not to racing...10 years+ electric) would the GT-4 platform be a good one to race. Most of the racers at the track run the Mugen and the Tc3....any help would be great.

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I guess the rumors will be flying for a while, and I love discussions on rumors (my own job being excluded of course) It seems like more and more manufacturers are jumping on the SD bandwagon, now with Kyosho (FW-05R) and Mugen (msx3)
The MSX3 has been out for some time already.

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Below is a pic of the new Kyosho FW-05R. Interesting how the pipe is on the RH side. I didn't know there's manifolds out there like that! It looks like a side exhaust engine is almost impossible for this car without some major manifold modifications. It probably a lot more central alignment of the motor, but I'd hate to have to change spur gears on this thing! I never really figured out how the Nitro TC3 handled the offset balance of the motor weight coupled with the torque of the motors. Look how forward the tank is and the throttle servo is all the way in the back.


That layout is somewhat of a old school design(Kyosho Superten & FW-04, Mugen Prime-12, and the kinda new HPI RS4-3).

As for a side exhaust engine, any stock or aftermarket T-Maxx, RS4-3, and MSX3 side exhaust manifolds will do the trick.
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