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Old 10-11-2012, 06:52 AM   #331
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My NT1 is 1753g ready to race, with no lightweight options, I'm running a LiFe battery already with 40g of weights on the exhaust side to balance it.

How can I lose a further 203g!!???!

Well the receiver box is 30g (plus the weights on the other side to offset it is another 40g), so I can run no receiver box in dry conditions, I can lose another 30g with some lightweight options.

that's 100g, I think I can get down to about 1650g without braking the bank and making the car fragile, the other 100g will elude me, unless I use titanium screws, lightweight solid front axle and plastic gears in the rear diff.

at which point I've compromised the car's set-up, life span and strength.

Not good!

1650 is a sensible limit, any lower is pointless.


We're running 1700g in 2013 in the UK again, good job!
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Old 10-11-2012, 10:00 AM   #332
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Did you weigh the car with an empty tank and very small tyres?
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Old 10-11-2012, 10:49 AM   #333
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IMO, when regulators make rules to be obey by many, the rules should not benefit the have and disbenefit the less ( slow, fat, old ). The rules should be fair for the have and for the less. The less should have equal opportunities to participate in fairly manner like the have. Simply put, the have should not taking advantage from the less.
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The problem as I have stated before somewhere in this topic is that most people at the EFRA AGM are not voting with the opinion of their drivers. It is really a huge question of how well the opinion of the drivers is voted with the AGM.

We have started to send out a list to all 1/8 drivers in the Dutch competition to give a vote on every item in the agenda so from the reactions the majory decides what the voting will be. Sadly from a driver from a neighbour country I did get the message that such a thing was never done within his country....

I wonder how many countries are really asking their drivers their opinion.....
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Did you weigh the car with an empty tank and very small tyres?
Cars are weighed with empty tanks, and virtually no foam or no foam at all. A car gets disqualified if it is underweight because it has no fuel left in tank, and worn out tires after a race. But there will be no regulation to stop anyone from weighing in with bigger tires, if they are willing to take risk with tire wear.

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Old 10-12-2012, 06:38 AM   #336
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My car weight is small tires and no fuel.
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Old 10-12-2012, 07:22 AM   #337
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Just an answer to your question James, don`t shoot me.

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My NT1 is 1753g ready to race, with no lightweight options, I'm running a LiFe battery already with LOSE THIS 40g of weights on the exhaust side to balance it.USE LOW PROFILE TO BALANCE

How can I lose a further 203g!!???!BUY WC EDITION NT1


Well the receiver box is 30g (plus the weights on the other side to offset it is another 40g), so I can run no receiver box in dry conditions, I can lose another 30g with some lightweight options.GOOD POINT

that's 100g, I think I can get down to about 1650g without braking the bank and making the car fragile, the other 100g will elude me, unless I use USE IT ON THE TOP DECK ONLYtitanium screws, lightweight solid front axle and DON`T USE PLASTIC plastic gears in the rear diff.

at which point I've compromised the car's set-up, life span and strength.
NO YOU WON`T

Not good!GOOD

1650 is a sensible limit, any lower is pointless.
1550 IS THE BEST, YOU WILL LIKE IT WHEN YOU RACE THIS WEIGHT,BEST THING BESIDES SEX


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OK FOR YOU, HAVE FUN, BUT LET OTHERS DO OTHERWISE
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Im using low profile savox 1251mg servos! car isn't balanced unless 80g!! on exhaust side in run 40g as a compromise! I can get down to 1550g I'm certain, but it's too much money for me. Plus I don't need to get below 1700g in 2013.
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Old 10-12-2012, 04:54 PM   #339
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Im using low profile savox 1251mg servos! car isn't balanced unless 80g!! on exhaust side in run 40g as a compromise! I can get down to 1550g I'm certain, but it's too much money for me. Plus I don't need to get below 1700g in 2013.
James, the car's weight balance can be misleading as it measures the force of gravity in one direction and doesn't account for CG. Not really sure how one would measure the effects of weight in cornering when distributed at different height on the car.
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Just an answer to your question James, don`t shoot me.


OK FOR YOU, HAVE FUN, BUT LET OTHERS DO OTHERWISE
Beautiful advise: BUY WC EDITION NT1

Has it ever crossed your mind that:
a.) people probably don't want or can't afford that
b.) That's exactly why the manufacturers have trying to push this rule through?
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While the EFRA is going to 2400 gram for the 1/8 a driver in the Dutch competition has proposed to go to 2350........
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This is the reason why EFRA wants to go to 1650:

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The decision made last year to go to 1550 was a wrong decision and has cost a lot of
discussions with some manufacturers. A minimum weight of 1650 is a fair weight limit
and is in agreement with the majority of manufacturers. Also IFMAR has adopted the
1650 rule, based on the average weight of 3 standard cars. Since we do want to be on
the same pace with rules another reason to go to 1650 grams. Since all cars are around
1650 grams with a lipo or slightly less there is no need to wait another year.
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Beautiful advise: BUY WC EDITION NT1

Has it ever crossed your mind that:
a.) people probably don't want or can't afford that
b.) That's exactly why the manufacturers have trying to push this rule through?
a Stefan, i am the only racer who has been racing the same car for the last 3 years. In a field of approx. 25 drivers , they all buy new kits each year. So i know for sure, not probably.

b Stefan, your right, racers had no vote on the AGM. But i would like less weight and more speed. My car is 1600 withough additional weights. 100 gramms is a lot off iron.
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I thought you mentioned that you were running a 2012 WC kit, did that excist already 3 years ago?
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I thought you mentioned that you were running a 2012 WC kit, did that excist already 3 years ago?
Never said that, I have a 2009 kit wich a bought some parts on. Don`t have a WC kit. Wish i had though. I have a few lightweight parts on the car. I have to bolt the weights on some places i can, but the 2012 has some brass weights wich you can bolt on the chassis.
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