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Old 07-18-2011, 11:18 AM   #1
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Default 2wd nitro 235mm why not 200mm?

what is the difference between 235mm nitro chassis and 200mm chassis?

specifically what allows 235mm chassis to race 2wd?

why not 200mm nitro touring?

im referring to mugen avance and serpent impact and picco rs600 was offered in 2wd as well. why not kyosho v one or hpi or whatever else?
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what is the difference between 235mm nitro chassis and 200mm chassis?

specifically what allows 235mm chassis to race 2wd?

why not 200mm nitro touring?

im referring to mugen avance and serpent impact and picco rs600 was offered in 2wd as well. why not kyosho v one or hpi or whatever else?
235 mm disappeard a while back was a great class, people lost interest serpent stooped making them. was great for budget minded racers sort of inbetween touring and 1/8th. too bad it's gone
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what is the difference between 235mm nitro chassis and 200mm chassis?

specifically what allows 235mm chassis to race 2wd?

why not 200mm nitro touring?

im referring to mugen avance and serpent impact and picco rs600 was offered in 2wd as well. why not kyosho v one or hpi or whatever else?
235 was 2WD but used wider tires and wider track width to increase traction and stability. 200mm uses narrower tires but uses 4 wheel drive. 2 different animals

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Serpent Impact & Serpent Impulse is the exact same chassis. Only difference was the wheel outputs. Impact the quick release wheels, Impact the 200mm wheels. 235 class used the larger engine .15, The Impulse .12 200mm. In the states you'll find that some track do run 235mm. I think Europe you'll find more runnung the 235mm. And yes the 235mm class died in the US.
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rear track width? is that all? impulse and impact have the same layout?

ill definitely look up all of that!

what about the chassis or upper deck layout or the suspension?

of course im asking because i want to run 2wd on my kyosho v one rr its just collecting dust and is outdated at this point.
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The class died cause alot of people couldn't handle the 2wd cars. They wanted the 4wd help. I loved the 2wd class. My Impact was on rails with the FPS ball diff. Also the Impact and Impulse used the same suspension parts up front and the same shocks. The chassis and top plates were not the same.
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rear track width? is that all? impulse and impact have the same layout?

ill definitely look up all of that!

what about the chassis or upper deck layout or the suspension?

of course im asking because i want to run 2wd on my kyosho v one rr its just collecting dust and is outdated at this point.
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The class died cause alot of people couldn't handle the 2wd cars. They wanted the 4wd help. I loved the 2wd class. My Impact was on rails with the FPS ball diff. Also the Impact and Impulse used the same suspension parts up front and the same shocks. The chassis and top plates were not the same.
Impact & Impulse differences, And can be interchanged. Frnt & Rear suspension the same w/shocks. Impulse diff's Gear differential, Impact one-way frt axle, & rear Solid axle. Impact & Impulse motor mount the same. When the Impulse came out, I assemble both Impulse & Impact at the same time. A week later, assembled the Vector. Radio plate are different, Impulse is composite, Impact Graphite. Little work with the dremel, can fit it.

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Thanks im on it!

Anyone seen/own/heard of a touring car conversion to 2wd?
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With the last 235mm EC ever Julius Kolf had transformed his 720 into a 235mm car just by using the (modified) suspension of an 835
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This was a great class! Still have 3 Mugen Avance. We should rally and bring this class back!
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This was a great class! Still have 3 Mugen Avance. We should rally and bring this class back!
Bringing the class back would be great!!! I have two (2) 2wd Serpent Impacts and just picked up a 4wd rolling chassis with some parts for $25 from a guy moving from my area. However, our problem would be replacement parts for when you break something. We might be able to mod some parts from some of the current cars to fit but some we would be just a$$ed out.
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There was this push a couple of years ago with 220mm. There were a couple of companies that made kits that converted a 200mm car to 220mm. It did not take off as well as many thought, fizzed and I believe is dead. 235mm 2wd was the shiznit back in the day (it is what helped me become a better driver).
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Bringing the class back would be great!!! I have two (2) 2wd Serpent Impacts and just picked up a 4wd rolling chassis with some parts for $25 from a guy moving from my area. However, our problem would be replacement parts for when you break something. We might be able to mod some parts from some of the current cars to fit but some we would be just a$$ed out.
I agree with the class as I ran this when it first came out. Was running 1/8 2wd with a Serpent 4wd converted and was fun to get it to work well. Much different driving style than 4wd.

As to parts ......... I have cases of stuff and even purchsed a good chunk of stuff when distribution changed a few years back. If you need something I'm sure I have it.

One of the best options for this car was to run the OSTZ .18 as it has much better power, still very light. Probably have 2-3 sets of the big block to small block mounts.

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Old 07-20-2011, 08:17 AM   #14
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and a couple of years ago 200 mm tourings were widened to 220 mm

k factory, knack racing, and kawahara (tires and body only) were marketing them as a GPR class

and found this:

hkshobby.com

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Old 07-20-2011, 08:18 AM   #15
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kamikazetoysandhobbies.com sells 220 mm conversion for xray nt1

hkshobby.com sells 220 mm conversion for kyosho v one rrr
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