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Old 07-05-2011, 01:13 PM   #46
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If the Ntc3 is bulletproofed and setup with the same new equipments(servos, radio, body, etc...) as the Nt1, Capricorn,and the likes , I believe it has a chance in the long 30 to 45 minute mains where anything can happen . I am currently building my Ntc3 with all top notch gear, and will be taking up this so-called impossible challenge!!! I will let you guys know how it did, but I am convinced there will not be a major difference between the kits....
Unless you have aftermarket diffs, spurs and pinions... I am telling you it won't handle the new generation of engines.

But go ahead, blow all your $$$ in aftermarket parts and "fixes" but please, don't advice/suggest someone new to do the same. Because after all the headaches it causes, his only solution will be to quit.
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Unless you have aftermarket diffs, spurs and pinions... I am telling you it won't handle the new generation of engines.

But go ahead, blow all your $$$ in aftermarket parts and "fixes" but please, don't advice/suggest someone new to do the same. Because after all the headaches it causes, his only solution will be to quit.
I agree completely. Well Said!
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Unless you have aftermarket diffs, spurs and pinions... I am telling you it won't handle the new generation of engines.

But go ahead, blow all your $$$ in aftermarket parts and "fixes" but please, don't advice/suggest someone new to do the same. Because after all the headaches it causes, his only solution will be to quit.
that's just telling the truth that's how to keep people in the hobby
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Unless you have aftermarket diffs, spurs and pinions... I am telling you it won't handle the new generation of engines.

But go ahead, blow all your $$$ in aftermarket parts and "fixes" but please, don't advice/suggest someone new to do the same. Because after all the headaches it causes, his only solution will be to quit.
Well said.

The NTC3 was built when engines didn't have nearly the amount of torque they have now, and even then there were tricks and fixes to keep the diffs in one piece.

Can it be done? Yeah. Is it worth it? Probably not. Much too much time and money to spend on fitting a square peg in a round hole, and a very quick way to make someone new quit the hobby.
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The Ntc3 3 shoe clutch WILL Not and Can NOT compare with todays centax clutches. So if you take on this project you gotta look into a good clutch system. good luck

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The one which has the best support in your country.

If in the United States you wont have to much a problem with any support from most all the major companies.
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I have heard all these ntc3 arguments before, and have proved them all wrong ! Once you figure out the right ntc3 setup, it will cost next to nothing to run the car . It will all depend on the type of person/ builder you are! If you quit easily, good luck in this hobby! If you are a follower, then you will follow the crowd, and pay the consequences! Remember newbies, this is a business to some, and their role is to figure out how to brainwash you so you keep buying their newest products!!! I did not fall into the trap, and,as you can see, the many racers that have, want you to follow them!!! I am pretty sure they all could not make their ntc3 work, so why should let someone else try ??? One of the hardcore racers in my club admitted to me that he was faster with his ntc3 than his nt1! EVERYBODY switched to the nt1, so did he !!!!
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I have heard all these ntc3 arguments before, and have proved them all wrong ! Once you figure out the right ntc3 setup, it will cost next to nothing to run the car . It will all depend on the type of person/ builder you are! If you quit easily, good luck in this hobby! If you are a follower, then you will follow the crowd, and pay the consequences! Remember newbies, this is a business to some, and their role is to figure out how to brainwash you so you keep buying their newest products!!! I did not fall into the trap, and,as you can see, the many racers that have, want you to follow them!!! I am pretty sure they all could not make their ntc3 work, so why should let someone else try ??? One of the hardcore racers in my club admitted to me that he was faster with his ntc3 than his nt1! EVERYBODY switched to the nt1, so did he !!!!
I hope you are still running Windows 95 in your computer.

Even if someone offered me a fully hopped up NTC3 with engine, pipe and servos for free. And someone was selling a rolling NT1 chassis for $300.

Which one would be the better buy??

I have seen over the past few years some old good racers (NTC3 lovers) trying to come back to racing with their cars. Only to find that they are not only 3-4 seconds off-pace, but they have so much trouble with the durability of their car, they never think twice about coming back.

But yeah, go ahead... Keep racing your NTC3, you're free to do so. What we are saying is don't recommend it to a new person who is looking to have fun and not looking for headaches and problems.

When you can, please post pics of your NTC3 making the A main podium at your local track. Or at least a video of your car running 40 minutes without a problem with a real engine. I don't know, it might help your credibility.
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I do understand your point, but most of these old timers go right back to their early mistakes, and that is why I think I will succeed where they have failed !!! I will let you guys know how I do !!! The ROAR region one champions are my club competitors, and I will have fun disproving all the aforementioned shortfalls of the legendary Ntc3 once and for all !!!!!!!
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I do understand your point, but most of these old timers go right back to their early mistakes, and that is why I think I will succeed where they have failed !!! I will let you guys know how I do !!! The ROAR region one champions are my club competitors, and I will have fun disproving all the aforementioned shortfalls of the legendary Ntc3 once and for all !!!!!!!
Good luck....


As for the original guy who posted for help...... Don't get an Ntc3.
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I do understand your point, but most of these old timers go right back to their early mistakes, and that is why I think I will succeed where they have failed !!! I will let you guys know how I do !!! The ROAR region one champions are my club competitors, and I will have fun disproving all the aforementioned shortfalls of the legendary Ntc3 once and for all !!!!!!!
Go get 'em Tiger (c) Mary Jane Watson


I would like to see your setup and which fixes you made to keep your NTC3 running as well as you say. Wondering if the cost of getting the shock towers and reinforced diffs etc is comparable to a newer kit.

In a moment of full disclosure, I ran something similar: both of Ofna's shaft driven cars. With standard metal diffs and centax (on the CD3 anyway), they were decent cars, but still had a few problems with some of the newer engines. I was constantly tweaking diffs and such with my .12 Ninja. I had read as many setups for the car as possible and maintained a good maintenance schedule as well. After 3 years I switched to a MTX4R. After one day I was a lap and a half faster with the same engine.

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A LAP AND A HALF faster
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I do understand your point, but most of these old timers go right back to their early mistakes, and that is why I think I will succeed where they have failed !!! I will let you guys know how I do !!! The ROAR region one champions are my club competitors, and I will have fun disproving all the aforementioned shortfalls of the legendary Ntc3 once and for all !!!!!!!
Region one. So you run at Floyd and Chaplin?? Cause I've never seen a ntc3 running or making the show at either track!
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I would like to see your setup and which fixes you made to keep your NTC3 running as well as you say. Wondering if the cost of getting the shock towers and reinforced diffs etc is comparable to a newer kit.

In a moment of full disclosure, I ran something similar: both of Ofna's shaft driven cars. With standard metal diffs and centax (on the CD3 anyway), they were decent cars, but still had a few problems with some of the newer engines. I was constantly tweaking diffs and such with my .12 Ninja. I had read as many setups for the car as possible and maintained a good maintenance schedule as well. After 3 years I switched to a MTX4R. After one day I was a lap and a half faster with the same engine.

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Well Said. I ran an NTC3 5 years ago then switched to the MTX3 as my next and I got the same result!
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