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Old 10-10-2006, 06:41 AM   #8176
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It was recommended in the September 06 RCCaraction Magazine, try to file off alittle at the top edge of the cylinder before caping it. Hope it works
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Old 10-10-2006, 06:47 AM   #8177
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the shock body or the underside of that black shock cap ?
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Old 10-10-2006, 07:03 AM   #8178
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Change the springs to soften the suspention. Gold springs are hard, Black medium and silver soft. If you change the springs you need to change the weight of the oil. 35wt is medium 20 wt soft 50wt hard OK.
I have the blue spring that comes with the evo conversation kit, any idea it belongs to which factor?
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Old 10-10-2006, 07:06 AM   #8179
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The RRR is prone to the back sliding out. If you can control it then the car can be driven fast.

The front is too hard compared to the back. I'll explain.

As the weight transfers over when turning the front will load up quicker than the back. The back will have to roll more to get the same grip and looses traction before the outside wheel can bite.

Soften the front and increase the roll bar.
Increase the rear springs and increase the rear shock oil
Stand the rear shocks up to the top

You might find you will loose mid corner steering so soften the front roll bar to compensate if you have gone too far.

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The RRR is only prone to sliding out, when using the stock rear diff setting of 30,000 wt. diff lube on anything but a very high bite track. If, you're using a diff up front, I suggest starting with 30,000 up front and 10,000 in the rear. If, you're still sliding out, try 7000 wt. diff lube. You should be able to run 10,000 in the rear on just about any track with low to medium grip. You should also look at your roll center and droop settings. If, you're using the stock lower arm (bushings on hinge pins) roll center settings, start with 2mm of droop. Set the upper arm (camber link) to the inner position and remove the spacer over the rear hub.
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Old 10-10-2006, 07:09 AM   #8180
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my cars rear got really slidey when i changed from 30k front diff to 50k front
my rear diff is 5000wt

why is this ?

im still new to diffs
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Old 10-10-2006, 07:11 AM   #8181
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the shock body or the underside of that black shock cap ?
Sorry its the oct 06 issue i just flipped n snapped a photo to assist u

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Old 10-10-2006, 07:24 AM   #8182
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my cars rear got really slidey when i changed from 30k front diff to 50k front
my rear diff is 5000wt

why is this ?

im still new to diffs
Which end was sliding, the front or the rear? Also, consider if, any of the other variables changed? Such as the the traction level on the track. Whether you went back out without cleaning and or "truing" and adding traction compound to the tires? Reseting your ride height and so on. In other words, keeping the conditions as close as possible to your last run and factoring that into your results.
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Old 10-10-2006, 07:28 AM   #8183
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coming into a turn with power then backing off throttle to turn in, the rear end will just slide around..guys at the track say the track does not have much side bite.

i woul dlike to stick to using 40s as the tyres will et very hot in our summer
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Old 10-10-2006, 07:35 AM   #8184
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coming into a turn with power then backing off throttle to turn in, the rear end will just slide around..guys at the track say the track does not have much side bite.

i woul dlike to stick to using 40s as the tyres will et very hot in our summer
Its not your tires. When you back off the throttle to turn, too much weight is transferring to the front of the car. Typically, you would reduce the rear droop. How much droop are you currently using? Too much front droop can also have the same effect, depending on how hard you're braking going into a corner.
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Old 10-10-2006, 09:15 AM   #8185
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Its not your tires. When you back off the throttle to turn, too much weight is transferring to the front of the car. Typically, you would reduce the rear droop. How much droop are you currently using? Too much front droop can also have the same effect, depending on how hard you're braking going into a corner.
Would like to learn more abt droop. What do u mean by reduce droop? What are the area to adjust to reduce the droop?
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Old 10-10-2006, 09:50 AM   #8186
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Would like to learn more abt droop. What do u mean by reduce droop? What are the area to adjust to reduce the droop?
The set screws in the lower arm raises (reduce droop) or lowers (adds droop) the arm.
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Old 10-11-2006, 05:10 AM   #8187
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The set screws in the lower arm raises (reduce droop) or lowers (adds droop) the arm.
U mean this area? What is the appropriate range of adjustment?

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U mean this area? What is the appropriate range of adjustment?

yes that is how the droop is set
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Its not your tires. When you back off the throttle to turn, too much weight is transferring to the front of the car. Typically, you would reduce the rear droop. How much droop are you currently using? Too much front droop can also have the same effect, depending on how hard you're braking going into a corner.

I had about 3mm from ride height front droop
and about 2mm from ride height rear droop

ive set the car to 0mm front and 4mm rear, 40 wt shock oil, silver springs all round and -2 rear toe in. 50k front diff and 5k rear diff, ill test it saturday and see how we go.

right now im trying to stop leaking shocks

thanks heaps guys
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I had about 3mm from ride height front droop
and about 2mm from ride height rear droop

ive set the car to 0mm front and 4mm rear, 40 wt shock oil, silver springs all round and -2 rear toe in. 50k front diff and 5k rear diff, ill test it saturday and see how we go.

right now im trying to stop leaking shocks

thanks heaps guys
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4mm of rear droop is a lot! Are you measuring this by using Hudy droop gauges? I would strongly suggest using only 2mm of rear droop.
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