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Old 07-18-2006, 04:38 AM   #7546
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The fronts too. Rear end felt more planted and the car seemed to have more steering.
i tried this on my RR and it works fine. go for it! but i haven't tried putting .8 module spurs and pinions.. anyone ?
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Old 07-18-2006, 04:59 AM   #7547
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Default rear camber

Hello all,
I have a small problem with my rear camber and I would appreciate some ideas. I have concluded to the following setup for my local track.

Front
height: 5.5mm
width: 196mm
shock oil: 600
springs: Kyosho Green (from the V1S series)
tires: 37 GRP
camber: 2
toe: 0
caster: arms all the way to the rear and all the spacers to the front
upper pin bases: default position
one way
servo saver: 12

rear
height: 6.0mm
width: 198mm
shock oil: 400
springs: Kyosho RED 1.7 (from the Fantom/Evolva)
tires: 40 GRP (0 offset, using the 2mm spacers)
camber: 3.5 or even more (here is my problem)
toe: +2.5 or 3
lower pin bases: type B and the hole towards the ground (second position from the groung)
upper camber links: default position and default (2mm) spacer
differential: 30000 with 4 gears

My problem is that the cone of the rear tires is not always right and shows that a little more camber is required. However, I am already to 3.5 - 4 and if I give more then the ball cups of the rear camber links get stuck on the balls and the rear arms do not move free. Anyway, it sounds a little extreme that I need more than 4 rear camber.
Also I would like to mention that my rear tires wear faster than the front and I already use harder rears.

Any comment or idea is very much appreciated.

Thanks
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Old 07-18-2006, 06:51 AM   #7548
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i tried this on my RR and it works fine. go for it! but i haven't tried putting .8 module spurs and pinions.. anyone ?
pre, The V-one RR evo has 0.8M spurs and pinions. The same spurs with RRR. The internal drive ratio of RR and RR evo is 2.5 so the 1st and 2nd gear pinions are 20+ teeth and 24+ teeth, respectively.
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Old 07-18-2006, 10:47 AM   #7549
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bah. The guy from the hobby shop already special ordered the VoneRR rear hubs=/ even though he has the VoneRRR rear hubs in stock ><


I guess im stuck waiting for the regular RR hubs ><
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Old 07-18-2006, 02:55 PM   #7550
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Hello all,
I have a small problem with my rear camber and I would appreciate some ideas. I have concluded to the following setup for my local track.

Front
height: 5.5mm
width: 196mm
shock oil: 600
springs: Kyosho Green (from the V1S series)
tires: 37 GRP
camber: 2
toe: 0
caster: arms all the way to the rear and all the spacers to the front
upper pin bases: default position
one way
servo saver: 12

rear
height: 6.0mm
width: 198mm
shock oil: 400
springs: Kyosho RED 1.7 (from the Fantom/Evolva)
tires: 40 GRP (0 offset, using the 2mm spacers)
camber: 3.5 or even more (here is my problem)
toe: +2.5 or 3
lower pin bases: type B and the hole towards the ground (second position from the groung)
upper camber links: default position and default (2mm) spacer
differential: 30000 with 4 gears

My problem is that the cone of the rear tires is not always right and shows that a little more camber is required. However, I am already to 3.5 - 4 and if I give more then the ball cups of the rear camber links get stuck on the balls and the rear arms do not move free. Anyway, it sounds a little extreme that I need more than 4 rear camber.
Also I would like to mention that my rear tires wear faster than the front and I already use harder rears.

Any comment or idea is very much appreciated.

Thanks
Your car is a bit narrow. Try 198 front and 200 rear. The additional space on the rear will help you getting 4 deg camber on the left and 3.5 on the right. (that is if your are running clockwise at your track)
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Old 07-19-2006, 02:28 AM   #7551
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Hello all,
I have a small problem with my rear camber and I would appreciate some ideas. I have concluded to the following setup for my local track.

Front
height: 5.5mm
width: 196mm
shock oil: 600
springs: Kyosho Green (from the V1S series)
tires: 37 GRP
camber: 2
toe: 0
caster: arms all the way to the rear and all the spacers to the front
upper pin bases: default position
one way
servo saver: 12

rear
height: 6.0mm
width: 198mm
shock oil: 400
springs: Kyosho RED 1.7 (from the Fantom/Evolva)
tires: 40 GRP (0 offset, using the 2mm spacers)
camber: 3.5 or even more (here is my problem)
toe: +2.5 or 3
lower pin bases: type B and the hole towards the ground (second position from the groung)
upper camber links: default position and default (2mm) spacer
differential: 30000 with 4 gears

My problem is that the cone of the rear tires is not always right and shows that a little more camber is required. However, I am already to 3.5 - 4 and if I give more then the ball cups of the rear camber links get stuck on the balls and the rear arms do not move free. Anyway, it sounds a little extreme that I need more than 4 rear camber.
Also I would like to mention that my rear tires wear faster than the front and I already use harder rears.

Any comment or idea is very much appreciated.

Thanks
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Old 07-19-2006, 04:10 AM   #7552
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I want to buy V-One RRR spur.Fwo5 R or RR's spur is fit to V One RRR Spur?

2nd Spur
http://www.korearcmall.co.kr/shop/sh...e=055004000083


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hey etgdpu,

what rear inner camber link position are you using? try running the outer (highest one) if your not already, also try raising the link on the hub by placing additional spacers in there that should help with quicker camber change on the track.

also, what downstop settings and tire diameters are you running? vbmenu_register("postmenu_2512851", true);
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I want to buy V-One RRR spur.Fwo5 R or RR's spur is fit to V One RRR Spur?

2nd Spur
http://www.korearcmall.co.kr/shop/sh...e=055004000083


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that spur is for RRR
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Old 07-19-2006, 08:54 AM   #7555
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Does it nesserary to spray those WD40 or Oil Lubricate on the Bearing after or during interval on each race ? I found some does and some Don't ??
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Hello all,
I have a small problem with my rear camber and I would appreciate some ideas. I have concluded to the following setup for my local track.

Front
height: 5.5mm
width: 196mm
shock oil: 600
springs: Kyosho Green (from the V1S series)
tires: 37 GRP
camber: 2
toe: 0
caster: arms all the way to the rear and all the spacers to the front
upper pin bases: default position
one way
servo saver: 12

rear
height: 6.0mm
width: 198mm
shock oil: 400
springs: Kyosho RED 1.7 (from the Fantom/Evolva)
tires: 40 GRP (0 offset, using the 2mm spacers)
camber: 3.5 or even more (here is my problem)
toe: +2.5 or 3
lower pin bases: type B and the hole towards the ground (second position from the groung)
upper camber links: default position and default (2mm) spacer
differential: 30000 with 4 gears

My problem is that the cone of the rear tires is not always right and shows that a little more camber is required. However, I am already to 3.5 - 4 and if I give more then the ball cups of the rear camber links get stuck on the balls and the rear arms do not move free. Anyway, it sounds a little extreme that I need more than 4 rear camber.
Also I would like to mention that my rear tires wear faster than the front and I already use harder rears.

Any comment or idea is very much appreciated.

Thanks
Yeah, I'm having the same issue. Car is planted, but the tires are coning from the outside - in, not like the recommended inside - out (negative camber tire wear look).

Left rear:

Left rear:

Right rear, close but still a slight cone:

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Does it nesserary to spray those WD40 or Oil Lubricate on the Bearing after or during interval on each race ? I found some does and some Don't ??
Hey there, baby is born? She/he looks very healthy and great! (It is a girl?) Congrats!!

It is recommended to do lubing/cleaning maintenance to the bearings, and it depends on how much time you have and how hardworking you are, if you're talking about interval during a race that is. The only bearings I lube during a race are the clutch bearings and the thrust bearing. The others I do it once every 2 months...
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Old 07-19-2006, 10:59 AM   #7559
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For those who are having the problem of rear tire coning from outside /in the suspention down travel should be checked. I noticed on the set up posted that down travel is not mentioned. The RRR seems to work best with 2-3 mm down travel from ride height. The traction at most of our tracks is low/medium. Rear tow is 2-3 degrees in and camber is 2-3 degrees neg. With 2-3 mm droop (down travel ) the tires wear flat or slightly coned from inside to out. The shock length needs to be checked to be sure of proper droop. Remember the droop needs to be checked every time you have to run the collars up or down. I do not use setup blocks at all. I set the ride height and lift the car up and lower it until the wheels touch and remeasure. Also sometimes it's hard to stop the reverse coning if you have long fast corners in the same direction. In that case you could end up with different camber setting left to right anyway.
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Old 07-19-2006, 02:31 PM   #7560
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Kyosho America has just received these new parts:

VZW204 Rear Adjustable Stabilizer Set(RRR/RRR E
VZW204-01 Rear Adjustable Stabilizer Bar(RRR/RRR E
VZW219 Universal Swing Shaft Set(RRR/RRR Evo/2P
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