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Old 01-16-2011, 07:59 PM   #16
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No anger it just gets old when people bash serpent. One of the most influential companies on the market. Yes this years Worlds will be very good with 3 new cars in the field. Serpent is a company that evolves it's cars and isn't afraid to try something new. Yes it would be nice for a US winner. But let's keep this thread on topic. The 966 Evo. Which will be an excellent car.
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You are right serpent does have a lot of first in the Rc market like the centax clutch.
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CNC machining is a lot cheaper than moulding plastic. And you can change design without any additional cost, just updating CAD design.....

...and people will enjoy to spend more money, beacause aluminium is a lot more fancy than plastic!!

So beautiful cars and more profit! Honestly I can't blame them

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You are right serpent does have a lot of first in the Rc market like the centax clutch.
The design is identical from a certain automatic clutch from some motocycle....

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CNC machining is a lot cheaper than moulding plastic. And you can change design without any additional cost, just updating CAD design.....
True that some parts in aluminium can be cost effective but the design of the Serpent rear bulkheads are far from an easy and fast CNC handeling. I am not supprised if these blocks are also die casted and through special adapters are placed on CNC machines to finish the job.

Regarding the performance, on the last WC 1/8 where a lot of (half) aluminium cars had to compete it was still a plastic car winning the title and also in the 1/10 it was a plastic car winning the title.
Ofcourse winning a WC is about the whole package but if a plastic car can not compete the aluminium cars than they would not win.....
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The design is identical from a certain automatic clutch from some motocycle....



True that some parts in aluminium can be cost effective but the design of the Serpent rear bulkheads are far from an easy and fast CNC handeling. I am not supprised if these blocks are also die casted and through special adapters are placed on CNC machines to finish the job.
Of course I'm not saying the serpent bulkheads are like that to be cheap! My replay was intended in a more general way. 966 is a hell of a car and I respect so much other people's work!!

Nevertheless I bet in the future years we'll see many near-total aluminium cars (exepting just some parts where alloys proved to be clearly wrong) for the reasons I wrote over.

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The design is identical from a certain automatic clutch from some motocycle....



True that some parts in aluminium can be cost effective but the design of the Serpent rear bulkheads are far from an easy and fast CNC handeling. I am not supprised if these blocks are also die casted and through special adapters are placed on CNC machines to finish the job.

Regarding the performance, on the last WC 1/8 where a lot of (half) aluminium cars had to compete it was still a plastic car winning the title and also in the 1/10 it was a plastic car winning the title.
Ofcourse winning a WC is about the whole package but if a plastic car can not compete the aluminium cars than they would not win.....
No, they're not cast. Casting would add to the cost y having to make a casting mold. These are machined out of 7075. And trust me, they're not that hard to make either.
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Old 01-17-2011, 11:03 PM   #22
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What's with all the anger? I was asking because I didn't know. I have been trying to find the results for the race. I like plastic but it seems that alu is the future. It works on the 966, velox and now the mrx5. However you do know that was collari first time at that track he will be much faster next time. Robert tqed at the 2009 worlds but no one can match collari for 60 mins. By the way I brought my little cousin a 966 this year for his birthday. I have brought a 966 and a 733 within the last year they are good Cars i just run something else. Plus it is all in fun it good for the sport to have so many cars in the field. It would be boring if everyone drove the same car this years worlds will be interesting it would be nice for a US driver to win. I know lamberto and kyosho are tried of winning.
This thread isn't about Collari & his accomplishments, it's about Serpent and it's updated 966
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Old 01-17-2011, 11:05 PM   #23
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Of course I'm not saying the serpent bulkheads are like that to be cheap! My replay was intended in a more general way. 966 is a hell of a car and I respect so much other people's work!!

Nevertheless I bet in the future years we'll see many near-total aluminium cars (exepting just some parts where alloys proved to be clearly wrong) for the reasons I wrote over.

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In the Near future or near past? SMP Slide anyone?
Lets go further back, the Picco Genisis and the Juno.
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but is better or not??


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what make`s you buy the car? when it is already a good car. Change something and give it to a fast driver so it wins. When you look at the latest serpent alu parts, they improved it with " plastic " rings so the bearings will be better seated. You can do your one maths with this.
Improving with plastic rings?
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so what's the part #'s to convert the 966 to the evo?

v2 rear end # 903358

mono brake # 903352

3mm anti roll bar # ????, are they talking about this, http://serpent.com/product/903337/
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so what's the part #'s to convert the 966 to the evo?

v2 rear end # 903358

mono brake # 903352

3mm anti roll bar # ????, are they talking about this, http://serpent.com/product/903337/
903337 yes but the current sway bar will work
903358 yes or 804217, 804218 and 903357
903352 or this http://kamikazercracing.com/proddeta...prod=XCE103024
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release date????
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Hi,

I recieved my 966 evo yesterday, first time building 1/8 scale!

Is there anything I need to look out for or hop ups needed?

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