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Old 12-10-2010, 08:22 AM   #1
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Default Illegal PROTOform Bodies ?? - THE TRUTH

I've read some banter on the internet and I've received some e-mails from various parts of the world in regard to the "fact" that certain PROTOform race bodies that have been declared illegal for EFRA competition in 2011.

The late great Winton Churchill was quoted saying "A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on"

I don't know who starts these rumors or why. I can only assume they come from racers with "other" affiliations - or internet junkies who are so bored with life that they need to create "news".

The truth:

- The #1504 PROTOform P909 in it's original configuration would actually fit under the adjusted EFRA 2011 body height rule (160mm max height) on some brands of 1/8th on-road chassis. However there were some other chassis brands that would raise the body over the limit by a millimeter or two. Just to be safe, the side dams were lowered by 4mm. ( a 10 minute task)
To make up for any perceived loss in stability or spoiler efficiency, a small center fin was added to the mold.

The body was sent to EFRA and ROAR for inspection and re-certification. I have not heard that there is any issues with either sanctioning body. The updated P909 is being used by many racers this weekend at the Pre-WORLDS in Homestead FL.

- The #1524 PROTOform 200mm P37-N has also been a target of the rumormongers and they have stated that the roof is too low to be EFRA/ROAR legal. The truth is this: the roof is identical to to within a thousandth of an inch of the PROTOform Stratus 3.1 that was 100% EFRA/ROAR legal for the last 6 years.

This body was also sent to EFRA and ROAR for approval along with the #1521 200mm P56-N, the #1525 P37-R (Rubber tire 190mm P37) and the #1523 R15B 1/8th LMP body.

If any news to the contrary should come up, I'll be sure to update you here on RCTech.

Thanks RCTech for giving me the opportunity to clear things up.


Regards - Dale Epp - PROTOform

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Old 12-10-2010, 02:14 PM   #2
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[email protected]$$! So how soon will the rest of us be able to get our hands on the two new 1/8th bodies?
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Take a deep breath Dale, you're doing an amazing job. The 909 has been a real game changer. It's nice to see even the snobby euro pros running an American body
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there will "alway's" be hater's in the crowd.....Protoform is still the BEST by far !
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there will "alway's" be hater's in the crowd.....Protoform is still the BEST by far !
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Hi Dale

Got a minute to check my PM?

Will there be a different part number for the update P909 bodies?

Keep up the great work, your designs always stand out and are then copied. The closed cockpit P909 is a real beauty!
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It's nice to see even the snobby euro pros running an American body
Hey Wingracer, WTF ????

From you I wouldn't have expected such a Red Neck'ish statement.
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Take a deep breath Dale, you're doing an amazing job. The 909 has been a real game changer. It's nice to see even the snobby euro pros running an American body
That's why you Americans are using Europian and Asian cars and engines......

I think Protoform is doing a great job providing good bodies in several thickness for any kind of RC driver. It will be interesting to see what will happen with the bodies and tracktimes with the new 160mm rule.
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Please, lets not start WW3. Most of us run cars and components from many continents: I have a Japanese Car and Radio, Italian engine and tyres with and an American and Taiwanese body.

Dale, thanks for the update on the P909 with the new rules for 2011. I will be competiting at the worlds in April so looking forward to using the updated P909 and R15B bodies.

But please, you can hold off shipping bodies until you the EFRA number is molded in.

I bought 5 x P909's when they were first released from my local distributor, only to discover the EFRA number was missing. Could only use them on club days.
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Please, lets not start WW3.
They have weapons of mass destruction........lol
WikiLeaks will tell the thruth...

Ouch...
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It was a sarcastic , national pride sort of comment guys. No offense intended.

The point is, I used to go to big races with international turnouts and all the Americans would be running the usual Protoform, Mugen or Serpent bodies while some of the Europeans would be running bodies none of us had ever seen before and couldn't even get over here. It was nice, and a little surprising to see Pietsch win the Euros with a Protoform.
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No offense taken, but to we are snobby..?
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Please, lets not start WW3. Most of us run cars and components from many continents: I have a Japanese Car and Radio, Italian engine and tyres with and an American and Taiwanese body.
A lot of people have become friends from other parts of this world because of this wonderful hobby we have. Let's not go and ruin those friendships.

From here on out stay on topic, thanks!

Dale, thanks for keeping us informed.
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No offense taken, but to we are snobby..?
Most no, but I have met a couple. Just like I'm sure you have met a couple of Americans you didn't like even if most of them seemed decent
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Most no, but I have met a couple. Just like I'm sure you have met a couple of Americans you didn't like even if most of them seemed decent
That`s true, nice to see you give a bit off nuance to youre words, cant do that with mine...
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