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Old 04-24-2011, 12:34 AM   #421
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you got it!

the guy who used serpent because he hadn't got mugen.
so we can use the mugen clutch ,spring cap and bearing stopper?
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Old 04-24-2011, 12:41 AM   #422
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thats whats in my clutch.
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Old 04-24-2011, 12:44 AM   #423
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anything except original. the red clutch is only good at nt1. period.
i don't know why xray still bundles it?
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Old 04-24-2011, 12:49 AM   #424
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thats whats in my clutch.
Thanks..some guys say that the shepherd clutch spring is the best in the market maybe we can use that too??
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anything except original. the red clutch is only good at nt1. period.
i don't know why xray still bundles it?
The red teflon material does not have world wide standard specs. There are huge differences between suppliers. We make our own red shoes and it is possible to run a whole WC with one shoe.
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Old 04-24-2011, 08:43 AM   #426
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thanks for reminding. that makes sense, price against spec and quality.
at least the rx8 owners don't have to try and get desparate after using the one bundled.

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Old 04-24-2011, 08:54 AM   #427
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CSO has launched 7075 T6 hard coated aluminium clutch pinions, they will be available in 15T, 16T, 19T, 20T & 21T
Fast in market, more to choose from after market.
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anything except original. the red clutch is only good at nt1. period.
i don't know why xray still bundles it?
why not just use the mugen shoe than if its a direct fit, why the spring nut, and bearing stopper from mugen? so thats also to say the msr springs will work?
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Mugen, kyosho and serpent clutch shoe are not direct fit. Xray's pin is narrower. You have to drill new holes for non-xray clutch.

Try tou use 0.4mm clutchgap including final endplay in it with 0.9mm spring tension. I tried this setting with original redshoe and it works with enough torque to handle with.
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yes if using xray flywheel but if use mugen dont have to
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Mugen, kyosho and serpent clutch shoe are not direct fit. Xray's pin is narrower. You have to drill new holes for non-xray clutch.

Try tou use 0.4mm clutchgap including final endplay in it with 0.9mm spring tension. I tried this setting with original redshoe and it works with enough torque to handle with.
Mine set to 0.6 clutch gap and 0.7 spring tension, works fine for me, no powdering.
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Ok who had them? I cant find anyone with anything but kits!! a-main etc?? thanks
Just use the one from NT1, direct fit.
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Default Black spring too hard for bumpy track

The black springs are too hard on bumpy track. When I followed the basic set up, it worked fine, just little bumpy.

When the roll center lower, the car was really bumpy like hell.

Im now change the Mugen grey at front and Xray red at rear, the feeling is:
-Front is too heavy
-Rear is ok, but not willing to turn

which is the best spring combination for bumpy road?
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The black springs are too hard on bumpy track. When I followed the basic set up, it worked fine, just little bumpy.

When the roll center lower, the car was really bumpy like hell.

Im now change the Mugen grey at front and Xray red at rear, the feeling is:
-Front is too heavy
-Rear is ok, but not willing to turn

which is the best spring combination for bumpy road?
Mugen grey on all 4 corners
Or Mugen white. those are what I would try.
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The black springs are too hard on bumpy track. When I followed the basic set up, it worked fine, just little bumpy.

When the roll center lower, the car was really bumpy like hell.

Im now change the Mugen grey at front and Xray red at rear, the feeling is:
-Front is too heavy
-Rear is ok, but not willing to turn

which is the best spring combination for bumpy road?
Rear springs only:
Xray light purple are very close to Mugen grey and Xray light red are close to Mugen white

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