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Old 07-01-2004, 10:27 PM   #1
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I have a question regarding onroad setups. I just bought the Integy setup kit for 1/10 scale and for the most part i have it figured out. Here are the questions i need help answering.
1. how do i set the front toe? I have the back figured out since its stationary but the front moves and messes me up.
2. how do you set droop? I see some droop guages come with blocks but i think mine (HPI droop/ride height combo) is the size of the blocks.
I guess that is it for now to get me started in the right direction
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Old 07-01-2004, 11:16 PM   #2
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forgot one: on pro drivers setup sheets, when they state 5* toe in, does that mean per side or total, as in 2.5* each side?
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Old 07-02-2004, 02:07 AM   #3
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First things first, make sure your steering servo is centered and wheels and pointing straight forward. Set your throw. Once you get this, setting toe will be a matter of adjusting the steering linkage arms. It always works out [for me] that it is a repititious set of steps [just as I think I have one thing set, I'll set something else to find out it changed what I'd previously set.

Droop is your basically upstop, unless you have the ability to use different positions on the bulk heads to position the hinge pins. You would use these first, then set your upstops.

5degrees sounds a bit much for one wheel. Might work, it just sounds odd, since the setting is usually given per wheel [just finished seeing an Xray 18 on eBay with severe toe in on the rear and wondered how much speed he gave up and how badly his tire wear was...].

What are you setting up? Electric droop is much more important than in nitro, but should not be ignored ... most nitro semi-serious racers will be more concerned with arm travel and tweak than with droop ... tire wear kinda almost forces you to re-set it after every run ... most nitro runners rely on arm travel and I can't remember seeing a nitro bulkhead with multiple holes for pins either...

Visit the Hudy.net site. It has loads of info and they do a great job explaning it [on the instruction PDF for the set-up station] although I'm sure I've simplified and/or butchered it, LOL.

No expert here, but this is how I've been working with it. Hope it helps!

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Before you start using Setup gauge,one thing is important.
You have to make sure all the suspension arms not have too much play. If the arm can be wavered,your setup will not precise.
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Before you start using Setup gauge,one thing is important.
You have to make sure all the suspension arms not have too much play. If the arm can be wavered,your setup will not precise.
Right. In fact you're all correct in that you're saying build the car well. Aligned steering linkages, no slop in suspension and I'll add, equally matched shocks too ... length, no of holes and oil (depending on the car, the matching may need to be by rear and front pairs instead of all four because of obvious reasons).
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forgot one: on pro drivers setup sheets, when they state 5* toe in, does that mean per side or total, as in 2.5* each side?
thats alot i seen 3 ,3.5 but never 5 degrees.
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Here's how I usually do mine. I turn on my radio and car so the steering serve is centered. I make sure that my radio trim is set to zero. Now with the setup blocks installed on both front axles, use the toe guage to check the toe in or out. Do not use the radio trim to adjust at this point. Only use the turnbuckles. If I'm not sure about the track conditions, I will use 1 degree of toe out. That's 1 degree for each side.
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thanks for all the answers. I will give it a shot this weekend and try a basic setup
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BTW, 5* was an example only
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