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Old 09-09-2010, 08:23 AM   #1
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Default havving trouble setting camber on kyosho evolva m3

Hi people I'm having trouble with setting camber on kyosho evolva m3.I find it hard setting camber on the setting data sheet as most of the writing is in japanese.Does anyone here have a kyosho evolva m3 on here . I would just like to know what woukd be a good start on the front and rear camber and rear e.g camber adjustments in degres left and right ect

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Never had an Evolva but most 1/8ths need between 2 and 3.5 degrees. I'd say start with about 3 front, 2.5 rear and run it. One tank and you will see how the tires are wearing and can adjust if needed.
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Old 09-09-2010, 09:18 AM   #3
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Cheers for that you know the scrub screw top and bottom do they both have to be 3 degrees I'm new to this so I don't know how to work it out sorry to be a pain. Do I have 2 screw the bottom screw then the top.Also I need a ride hight gauge where can I get these from cheers

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Hi man, sorry i dont have an evolva , but i do have a Kyosho V one RR and am also new to setting these things up.

I was originally trying to adjust ride height with those grub screws... but that's not what they are for i recently found out.

I have one set of grub screws that adjust for the droop .... that is how much it can have more downward travel from the set ride height. The other screws i think are to set it from bottoming out.
Ride height is adjusted by the spring tensioners... i thought they just adjusted spring tension

This has been my fave site to explain all the suspension tuning
http://www.rc-truckncar-tuning.com/r...on-tuning.html

It's been very helpful.

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Did you try to download one?
I believe Kyosho USA and France do have some setups online and I know the Collari WC setup is also published somewhare
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I've founnd my setting sheet it says on the front wheels -1 degrees. And back wheels +2. Is this the camber adjustment


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He is asking if he has to screw both pivot balls to set the camber.

On the front you use the bottom pivot ball to set your track width(how wide the car is from the ouside of the tires), once that is set you use the top pivot ball to set your camber.

On the rear you set your track width with both pivot balls, then you set your toe with the inside pivot ball and use the turnbuckle in the upper arm to set your cambe.

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Thanks that's a lot more clearer now cheers for your help.if it were you would u set the cambers the same e.g front ones the same. Left and roght. Back ones left and right the same

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Thanks that's a lot more clearer now cheers for your help.if it were you would u set the cambers the same e.g front ones the same. Left and roght. Back ones left and right the same

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Yeah, camber is ussualy set the same left to right, sometimes if the track has big sweepers you can set the camber with one degree difference, but since you're just starting out set it all the same left to right.

Start with 3 degrees in the back and 1.5 in the front adn check how the tires wear, you want them to wear to a cone shape, with the smaller diameter on inside. Set the rear toe to 2 degrees. You understand what I mean by toe?
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Sorry I don't know what toe means is it the diameter of the direction of tyre sorry I don't know what I'm talking about

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Sorry I don't know what toe means is it the diameter of the direction of tyre sorry I don't know what I'm talking about

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When you look at the car from the top, without the body, the tires are either straight or like this / \ thats the toe, the front you want it at 0 degrees(straight | |) or with no more than 1 degree toe out, the opposite of this / \, the rear you wanted it like this / \. Does that make sence? You should download the Xray Setup Guide, it explains everything, also download a setup sheet for your car, it should be on the kyosho website.
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I've done what you have said but I'm still finding it hard It must just be me.I've set the bottom pivot to both measure 260 at front but when I ajust camber at top pivot and screw the camber at front on 3 degrees it makes the top pivot too loose. I don't know what positive and minus camber is. You see when the set up on the front has the degrees it goes 10. To 0 then 0 to 10. Does that mean left of the 0 is negative and the right side of 0 possitive.Is there any shops I can take my car to help me with the set up as I'm finding it difficult to set up

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- camber means the top of the tire leans in toward the center of the car.

+ camber means the top of the tire leans out.

You do NOT want + camber, ever.
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Should it be that the top of the tyre is more curved in \ as apose to curved out /
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Should it be that the top of the tyre is more curved in \ as apose to curved out /
Top of the tires Always lean toward the chassis. This is negative camber.
Tires never lean out which is positive camber
Front camber <neagitive camber> usually 2 on the Evolva
Rear camber <negative camber> depending on track, between 2 and 3.
I have seen drivers go as high as 4, but just getting started, you should start with 2 negative camber.

Front toe out 1 to 1.5
Rear toe in 2 to 3

Shock oil Mugen works great <600> all four corners

Ride height front 5
Ride height rear 8 to 9

Front sway bar <flat>
Tire size <if trued> rear 74mm front 67mm
Try and use the tires you are going to run with to set up the car<or at least the same size tires when they are trued>
This will get you a good start
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