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Old 01-30-2011, 05:03 PM   #16
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Without anti roll bars and preferably with a set of setup wheels.

Also make sure everything is leveled, especially the two scales.

This is what is posted in the electric thread:

For balancing out the car by using weights I wouldn't suggest putting the car on four scales but one axle on the scales and one on a Hudy pin.
This eliminates the variables like chassis straightness which can cause a false reading.
If you want to do it perfectly you should also replace the shocks with a set of turnbuckles.
First you will dial in the left/right balance on both axles and then the front/rear balance.
When you set it up like this and build your shocks properly you don't have to balance out the car by changing the spring preload. This gives you a very good handling car.

Dialing in the left/right balance on both axles is with the front wheels on the scales and then the rear wheels on the scales?
How does the dialing in take place? By shifting and or adding weight or trying to move electronics?

How does that work with dialing in the front/rear?

I am a bit confused as to the photo you posted. The car isn't level?
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Old 01-30-2011, 05:11 PM   #17
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Without anti roll bars and preferably with a set of setup wheels.

Also make sure everything is leveled, especially the two scales.

This is what is posted in the electric thread:

For balancing out the car by using weights I wouldn't suggest putting the car on four scales but one axle on the scales and one on a Hudy pin.
This eliminates the variables like chassis straightness which can cause a false reading.
If you want to do it perfectly you should also replace the shocks with a set of turnbuckles.
First you will dial in the left/right balance on both axles and then the front/rear balance.
When you set it up like this and build your shocks properly you don't have to balance out the car by changing the spring preload. This gives you a very good handling car.

You say preferable setup wheels. Can the setup stands from the Hudy Professional All In One Setup System do the trick?
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Old 01-30-2011, 06:12 PM   #18
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Dialing in the left/right balance on both axles is with the front wheels on the scales and then the rear wheels on the scales?
How does the dialing in take place? By shifting and or adding weight or trying to move electronics?
Yes, left/right balance is done per axle.
How you balance the car depends on your situation, if your car is too heavy I would try moving some components around. Otherwise add some weights, this will also give you more possibilities to balance the car.

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How does that work with dialing in the front/rear?
With the front/rear I make sure the car is completely level by placing a small spirit level on the radiotray and one on the setup board.

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I am a bit confused as to the photo you posted. The car isn't level?
This picture was made to show someone how this method works so I put everything in place just for the picture. Normally the shocks are replaced by turnbuckles and the chassis is level.

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You say preferable setup wheels. Can the setup stands from the Hudy Professional All In One Setup System do the trick?
Sure, when they fit on your scales you could use the Hudy stands.
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Yes, left/right balance is done per axle.
How you balance the car depends on your situation, if your car is too heavy I would try moving some components around. Otherwise add some weights, this will also give you more possibilities to balance the car.



With the front/rear I make sure the car is completely level by placing a small spirit level on the radiotray and one on the setup board.
What is a spirit level? Is the car placed on the scales? How does front/rear balancing exactly take place?



This picture was made to show someone how this method works so I put everything in place just for the picture. Normally the shocks are replaced by turnbuckles and the chassis is level.
OK, I understand.



Sure, when they fit on your scales you could use the Hudy stands.
So they serve the same purpose als setupwheels, although they are not round?
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How do you balance your car with the dremel in the fuel tank? HAHAHA
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So they serve the same purpose als setupwheels, although they are not round?
Yes, you basically need 4 "things" which are identical to each other so the Hudy stands will work perfectly.

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Yes, you basically need 4 "things" which are identical to each other so the Hudy stands will work perfectly.



Ssst, don't tell the secret.
How exactly takes balancing front/back place?
I'm sorry but I don't understand your explanation from earlier on.
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DS I tryed your method of balancing my car and my R F is hevy and L R is hevy thay're fighting each other. Can this be done with shocks? I havent made turn buckles yet. Every thing was leval
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DS I tryed your method of balancing my car and my R F is hevy and L R is hevy thay're fighting each other. Can this be done with shocks? I havent made turn buckles yet. Every thing was leval
This video my Michael Salven may help you. The info that pertains to your situation is about 2:30 into it. The entire 5 part series if very informative. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILFfDg0dvQc
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