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View Poll Results: If you would like to buy a new kit,which type you prefer?Shaft Drive or Belt Drive?
Shaft Drive(such as NTC3;FW05R;LD3/CD3...etc.) 36 50.70%
Belt Drive(such as 710R;V-one-series;MTX3;G4...etc.) 36 50.70%
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Old 05-23-2004, 02:28 PM   #61
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I currently own an mtx-3 Im looking at the FW05R at the moment just want to see how shaft feels compared to belts

and yes I used to own the glass car but that car is pathetic IMO
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Old 05-23-2004, 04:51 PM   #62
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I currently own an mtx-3 Im looking at the FW05R at the moment just want to see how shaft feels compared to belts

and yes I used to own the glass car but that car is pathetic IMO
You yourself admitted you are a n00b in the 710 thread and n00bs tend to break cars that are too fast for them. I'll take that MTX-3 off your hands for $50 when you're done with it.

Go get yourself a Nikko or Tyco.
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Old 05-23-2004, 08:48 PM   #63
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As I knew there are many car's tank which is not at the middle place of the car. Like GT4; MTX3; NTC3; FW05; .....etc. Can those owners tell us that if you can feel the weight constantly change?
Anyone?
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Anyone?
I dont feel anything

I do know some people who claim that they can feel the difference, but keep in mind that is all very subjective.
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Old 05-23-2004, 09:08 PM   #65
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one things for sure, my car turns left faster than to the right. both my engine and tank are on the left side. i dont think much about it though, all i think about is having a good consistent line when racing and avoiding crashes.
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I dont feel anything

I do know some people who claim that they can feel the difference, but keep in mind that is all very subjective.
So it is not a big issue? right? otherwise how MTX3 won 04" Winternat? FW05R won 04" pre-world? and NTC3 won last 02" worlds? Those AWESOME racers didn't feel the weight constantly change during each tank?
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Old 05-23-2004, 09:16 PM   #67
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So it is not a big issue? right? otherwise how MTX3 won 04" Winternat? FW05R won 04" pre-world? and NTC3 won last 02" worlds? Those AWESOME racers didn't feel the weight constantly change during each tank?
well, in theory it should matter; everyone knows that. But in practice, I believe the difference is insignificant. If the consequences were very noticible, manufacturers would all ditch this design.

The majority of the people I know say that honestly they cannot feel a difference. As our dear friend Manticore once told me: "If you want a centerd car, go race dragsters! ".

Heh, how come you are all of a sudden interested in this subject?
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Old 05-23-2004, 09:24 PM   #68
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I drove a NTC3 and MTX3 for some time and conclude that I didnt felt any difference driving them. Both cars with equally easy to drive out of the box but I had to let one go coz I didnt have time to maintain both cars. Well I let go the MTX3 coz I didnt have so many spares in stock and I also managed to get a good price for it. To me, just buy one that is good for your wallet and plenty of spares available in the LHS.
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one things for sure, my car turns left faster than to the right. both my engine and tank are on the left side. i dont think much about it though, all i think about is having a good consistent line when racing and avoiding crashes.
Have you check the front and rear downstop setting? also the rear toe-in or maybe L/R ride high?
The easiest way is setting from your TX. My TX never setting the same value on L/R balance since the streering servo lay sown. It is hard to let the rod and arm keep right angle.
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if you drive point and shoot.. go get the shaft driven like ntc3

if you are hard in the corners.. go get a belt driven car.

the ntc3 won't handle the hard driving style and will eat diffs like cookies just like cookie monster does

but if a company was to develop a shaft driven car that is as durable as the 710 or the mtx-3, i would definitely get one because shafts are easier to work on.

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well, in theory it should matter; everyone knows that. But in practice, I believe the difference is insignificant. If the consequences were very noticible, manufacturers would all ditch this design.

The majority of the people I know say that honestly they cannot feel a difference. As our dear friend Manticore once told me: "If you want a centerd car, go race dragsters! ".

Heh, how come you are all of a sudden interested in this subject?
Nice discussion let us learn together. Bad debate is wasting time.

I agree with you. Those manufactory guy is not stupid idiot. If it is a important factor, it is impossible to let the tank not at the middle place of the car anymore.

Bythe way,where is that old guy?
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the ntc3 won't handle the hard driving style and will eat diffs like cookies just like cookie monster does
There is another key point. Remember to close your throttle when your car is flying (not stick on ground) no matter it's shaft or belt car. If you have played 1/8 on-road you will know it's serious....

The shaft car's transmission dosen't have flexible zone to absorb the impact.
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if you drive point and shoot.. go get the shaft driven like ntc3

if you are hard in the corners.. go get a belt driven car.

the ntc3 won't handle the hard driving style and will eat diffs like cookies just like cookie monster does

but if a company was to develop a shaft driven car that is as durable as the 710 or the mtx-3, i would definitely get one because shafts are easier to work on.

The Kyosho Fw-05R is more durable than the 710 and the MTX-3
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Nice discussion let us learn together. Bad debate is wasting time.

I agree with you. Those manufactory guy is not stupid idiot. If it is a important factor, it is impossible to let the tank not at the middle place of the car anymore.

Bythe way,where is that old guy?
Agreed. That guy is having too much fun with his new toy i bet
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Hey Kevin I am currently selling my mtx-3 with the following

Its brand new and assembled I will include the following RD Logics 800Mah NIMH Receiver Battery RD Logics aluminum rear brace and RD Logics wheel hub adapters and a Sirio .12 engine with a 1 piece Legal Pipe

$400 shipped everything is brand new
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