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Old 03-10-2010, 10:43 PM   #91
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Looks good for some 2 day races. We had our meeting and will figure out a schedule, but racing for this sunday is all good. Traction will be back to normal for Rams sunday. So everyone is welcome to come up and run.
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I just want to reply on what bill said but first I would like to thank all of the guys here for their positive comments concerning GLARCRC. The core group of our organization has been around R/C racing since the mid 70's and for the small amount of manpower we have, they are doing a stellar job.

I also want to thank the racers for showing their support, Tom, Kenny and I went over the new memberships for 2010 and GLARCRC is now 54 members strong. In light of what is happening in so.cal, this is now our opportunity to put on the best racing programs possible and we are again remotivated to do what we do best...race!!

Parking lot tracks may not 100% state of the art but as Bill stated..there are a lot more things that have to go on behind the scenes that few others know and it ain't easy!!.

Last year, my older Sisters came into a considerable amount of money (Drugs, broffle madams, etc. LOL) and as a family, we looked into opening a permanant onroad track with a hobby shop on premises. NOT!! Just the land alone here in so cal was 18 million, even to lease...36,000/mo. landscaping and paving...420,000. Lights/electrical...37,000, fencing/gates...11,000 and that's where we stopped. Still don't know how much the shop or insurances would have been.

So Bill has a valid point and for the time being, all of the parking lot clubs should put their best foot forwards when it comes to the racing program. It's still customer service. And good service is what folks expect when they spend their hard earned cash.

Lastly...even with all the good and not so good that happened at CP, I think we all should appreciate and thank James and Van for having a vision and for almost 10 years, giving us all a place to play. Just my 2 cents
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I just want to reply on what bill said but first I would like to thank all of the guys here for their positive comments concerning GLARCRC. The core group of our organization has been around R/C racing since the mid 70's and for the small amount of manpower we have, they are doing a stellar job.

I also want to thank the racers for showing their support, Tom, Kenny and I went over the new memberships for 2010 and GLARCRC is now 54 members strong. In light of what is happening in so.cal, this is now our opportunity to put on the best racing programs possible and we are again remotivated to do what we do best...race!!

Parking lot tracks may not 100% state of the art but as Bill stated..there are a lot more things that have to go on behind the scenes that few others know and it ain't easy!!.

Last year, my older Sisters came into a considerable amount of money (Drugs, broffle madams, etc. LOL) and as a family, we looked into opening a permanant onroad track with a hobby shop on premises. NOT!! Just the land alone here in so cal was 18 million, even to lease...36,000/mo. landscaping and paving...420,000. Lights/electrical...37,000, fencing/gates...11,000 and that's where we stopped. Still don't know how much the shop or insurances would have been.

So Bill has a valid point and for the time being, all of the parking lot clubs should put their best foot forwards when it comes to the racing program. It's still customer service. And good service is what folks expect when they spend their hard earned cash.

Lastly...even with all the good and not so good that happened at CP, I think we all should appreciate and thank James and Van for having a vision and for almost 10 years, giving us all a place to play. Just my 2 cents
That was well put, Glenn.

The RAMS had a meeting last evening. We will have our racing program up to typical RAMS standard this year, as well. You guys are welcome to join us. We will have good traction and fierce competition. The track will also be more 1/10th scale friendly - I know we are known for our monster layouts - but, as a club, we agreed to tone down the straight away.

That being said, I sure would be nice to hear from the "RC investors" as mentioned multiple times on this thread - perhaps they can shed some light on Crystal Parks sudden closure.
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I think that everyone is looking in the wrong direction.
The economy is a big driving point here.
Even with all of the main manufactures located in the So Ca. area<Mugen,Kyosho,HPI, Associated,Ofna,> to name a few, they dont need to have a track and the expsenses associated in building and maintaining it.
So Ca. is just a very small part of the on-road community, and as much as I would like to see one of them, or even a joint effort between some of the larger manufacturers in building a track, it is just not cost effective.
The cost of land is at an all time high right now, not to mention the costs of building the track itself, and the supporting builings,<or signular building> would be much more than most people can comprehend.
Think about it for a second, you dont think that the sponsored drivers only participate in races in the local area. Some of them travel the world over, so they surely dont need a local track.
A local track would help promote the hobby of course, but in what area, the local area only, and would bring in some outside racers every couple of months when a larger event was held.
To build a track now would easliy cost in excess of $1,000.000.00 plus.
This I know for sure, as about 3 years ago I had the opportunity to open a track in Norco Ca. <only about 30 min. east of Orange Co.>
The land was Donated no less with an aggreement on a 25 year working span.
I then started getting drawings together, and pricing out the track and the items needed to get the track up and running. Before I even completed getting the prices together, I was right at $340.000.00. Now take into consideration the cost of the land had it not been donated, and it would have been very close to that majical number of 1 million dollars. Lucky for me the city would not zone the area for an RC track, because I can guarantee you I would have been closed down by now due to the recession we are in.
I would have lost my ass in less than three years.
So the point is, it is a hobby and a bad economy will not support a hobby when there are homes to pay for, car payments to be made, and just the fact that it is very difficult for most families even to survive right now.
I am no different than anyone else. I love to go to the track and race, and really miss having a local track near by, but I dont see it a new track happening any time soon<hope I am wrong though.>
You are correct about most of the issues except that land is at a 20 year low now, if you could afford it this would be the perfect time to procure the property!
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Old 03-11-2010, 07:39 PM   #95
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Thumbs up good! love to go back there soon

a bunch of us LA locals had the privelege to run at the RAMS anniversary..
Was very memorable..We would love to go back there soon!
Jason, please plan it after the RCX race in pomona so we can prep for it!

Would love to see you guys run at the RCX if you guys could make it here too





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Looks good for some 2 day races. We had our meeting and will figure out a schedule, but racing for this sunday is all good. Traction will be back to normal for Rams sunday. So everyone is welcome to come up and run.
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RAMS 40th was the 1st travel race that i had ever been to and it was amazing.. great people... great track.. great program.. definitely one of the best races i have ever been to
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Everyone thought i was crazy for going up there for sunday races here and there for the past 3 years.Its well worth the drive and the chance to run two day races are even better!!!!
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Everyone thought i was crazy for going up there for sunday races here and there for the past 3 years.Its well worth the drive and the chance to run two day races are even better!!!!
Well why dont you come up for the one day race this sunday
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Well why dont you come up for the one day race this sunday
GLARCRC is having track maintenance this weekend in prep for the rcx got to help out as much as i can.I will come up before vegas.
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Old 03-11-2010, 11:17 PM   #100
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RAMS 40th was the 1st travel race that i had ever been to and it was amazing.. great people... great track.. great program.. definitely one of the best races i have ever been to
Thanks,
Had alot of help from some very important people in the hobby. Rich Browne, Scott Kimbro, & especially Billy Bowerman to name a few. Also the club really came together with track setup and Kevin Jelich's design was awesome.
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Had alot of help from some very important people in the hobby. Rich Browne, Scott Kimbro, & especially Billy Bowerman to name a few. Also the club really came together with track setup and Kevin Jelich's design was awesome.
Jason, while I agree with you about me & Bowerman (very important and all that) but, Kimbrow, I don't know, he's kinda sketchy....


Quick note - Still waiting to hear from the two "RC Investors" about situation surrounding Crystal Park
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Jason, while I agree with you about me & Bowerman (very important and all that) but, Kimbrow, I don't know, he's kinda sketchy....


Quick note - Still waiting to hear from the two "RC Investors" about situation surrounding Crystal Park
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Well said.
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How much money do these people want to race on there property.And does this club have enough supporters to pay the fees. If it was a bathroom lots tracks use portable bathrooms.If we want cp to stay open we need to get organized.
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How much money do these people want to race on there property.And does this club have enough supporters to pay the fees. If it was a bathroom lots tracks use portable bathrooms.If we want cp to stay open we need to get organized.
I like this guys passion. We need the Milk Man to get involved. Come on man....make something happen.
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