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Old 07-18-2010, 07:48 PM   #391
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thanks for the tips ill try them out i was runnin 6.5 rear and 6 front with downstop at 0 front and 3 rear so......... ill give it a try and report back next weekend
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Old 07-19-2010, 06:17 AM   #392
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For bumpy tracks we suggest u to replace the original stock shocks o-ring (red) with the mono o-ring (grey).

It help a lot when drivers experience ur car behaviour.

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thanks for the info ill get some ordered and check it out
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Old 07-21-2010, 06:14 AM   #394
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The black chassis is available?
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Old 07-25-2010, 12:14 PM   #395
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Well i had no luck again with the stock springs tried 500 shock oil and didnt feel much different at all. same with the 3 hole pistons was running 18 lap pace in first two quals went back to mugen purple fronts and kyo light blue rear for the main and ran 21 laps, the most ive ever done! i dont think yall understand just how bumpy my track really is, no prblem though i dont mind the different color springs,so with that being said i think ill give up on the stock springs im sure they r great for smoother tracks but there r actualy spots that your car will come off the ground if your not carefull at my track
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Old 07-25-2010, 01:24 PM   #396
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What you said is true. I also had some testings at my hometrack, which has some bumps at the entering sweeper of the main straight. I was having some little jumpings as well. Today I tried Dark blue spring set by X... It was more smooth and had more traction, i liked it! But for smoother and higher traction tracks I feel that stiffer springs or Stock capricorns may work better. here is my complete setup:

Front:
199mm tr. width
Spool axle
shocks most inclined, 2 holes, 60 kit oil, dark blue short spring
toe out 0.75 degree on each wheel
camber 1.5 to 2
caster 2.5mm shims behind arm
10mm ackermann
2mm ride height with blank rims
downstop gauge 1mm
40-42 shore GRP
Roll center lowest(upper arm pin on highest position)
Wide bumper by X... with no foam
Wheel offset 1 shim in 1 shim out.
Anti roll bar flat

Rear:
199mm width
X... 40.000 diff oil
Shocks 3rd hole from lowest, 2 holes, 60 kit oil, dark blue long spring
toe in 3 degree
2mm ride height with blank rims
camber 3.5-4
camber link longest position, 2mm shims on the upright
short wheelbase
downstop 4mm
40-42 shore GRP
Roll center lowest(pin lowest)
Wheel offset 1 shim in 1 shim out.
Anti roll bar stock, with 1mm clearance to the ball cup.

Body blitz altis
pinions 15/20
spurs stock
clutch gap .6
clutch preload 0mm
endplay .15

I liked the Altis body over DNA because Altis has a smoother and better steering without loss of any rear grip. Sweeper after the main straight was also easier with more steering.

I feel really confident with this setup, and it has good traction in low-to med grip. When the grip is higher I can go with 50k or 60k rear diff oil. Now my Xceed Chevy and Protoform P56 are on their ways and I will be testing them too.
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Have run the capricorn now at two race tracks and both have done pps,cars is the best on the market......
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ok musti so a few questions first, shocks most inclined does this help to calm it down over the bumps?

Wheel offset 1 shim in 1 shim out. what do u meen by this u can only put it on the inside or outside, there is only one shim for each wheel ??

my set up is as follows

Front:
199mm tr. width
diff 120.000
shocks standard positon, 2 holes, 60 kit oil, mugen purple
toe out 0.5 degree on each wheel
camber 1.5 to 2
caster 2.5mm shims in front of arm
11mm ackermann
6.5 ride height with 61mm tire
downstop gauge 1mm
35-37 shore capricorn hard light
Roll center (upper arm pin on .5 down from top position)

Wheel offset shims inside the hubs
Anti roll bar 45*

Rear:
200mm width
60K diff oil
Shocks standard position, 2 holes, 60 kit oil, kyo light blue
toe in 3 degree
7mm ride height with 63mm tire
camber 3.5
camber link longest position, 3mm shims on the upright
long wheelbase
downstop 4mm
37-40 shore capricorn hard light
Roll center .5 up from lowest
Wheel offset shims outside the hubs
Anti roll bar stock, with 0mm clearance to the ball cup



so what should i change first i dont want to just change every thing at once as im still learning about all this, as far as i can tell the car is really good just kinda bouncy still and all the fast guys dont seem to ba havin any probs with the bumps

Thanks in advance for all the help im sure others are welcoming the advise also

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Old 07-27-2010, 02:01 PM   #399
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oh and also i feel like it could use some more low speed steering
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To help the car handle the bumps try using more or bigger holes in the shock pistons.
This helps a lot better as to thinner shock oil.
If you go for bigger holes, make them 0.2-0.3mm larger.

For the low speed steering I would suggest shortening the wheelbase or softening the front anti rollbar.

Also with the Capricorn hardlight tires I would suggest running the leas amount of offset all around, so all the shims on the inside.
Worked very well for me with the NT1.
Gives the car more overall steering and increases steering response.
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Front shocks inclined gives a very nice steering feel, more in corner steering and smoother.
I received 2 shims in the kit for each wheel. I think the thickness of my 2 shims are equal to your 1 shim.
About bumps, you can increase your ride height and/or tire diameter, it should help a little as well. If it still doesnt work, you have to change your dampening, probably softer oil and/or 3 hole pistons. Standart dampening is pretty hard.
As DS said, shorter rear wheelbase makes the car to take sharper corners easier. To improve it more, I can suggest you to soften your diffs and make your front arb flat, and maybe 198mm track width.
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thanks alot guys i will give it a try one thing at a time next race day

how does the 10 accerman plate change the way it steers compared to 11 and 12 ? more aggressive or less?
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thanks alot guys i will give it a try one thing at a time next race day

how does the 10 accerman plate change the way it steers compared to 11 and 12 ? more aggressive or less?
I experienced less aggressive steering with 10 plate but this can depend on track conditions, driving style and the rest of the setup, so you have to test it to see what you feel.
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cool i wont get a chance to race this week end due to a batchleor party for my friend but i will deff be out there next weekend i cant wait to test some of this stuff out i meen if this car can still get better than it was last time i may just give some of these vet a run for their money
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Exclamation Front Belt Wearing on Top Deck!

After running this car hard on a "BIG" Hi-Speed track for the first time, I've noticed the left edge of the backside of my front belt "wearing in an abnormal manner"! Have not heard of any NT1 owners complaining about this.
Although the belt has not failed, while replacing it, I removed the deck and applied some ""Dremal Love"" to the offending area. If this does not effectively mitigate the issue, the next step will be to cut that section completely out and Fab a brace that will lay on top of the deck to restore the integrity. (Hoping not to resort to this as, would look "Ugly"!)
After this discovery, I'm surprised nobody else has complained about this before now. Oh well, just a little FYI about an area that could prove to be a failure point on this car. I'm sure others have had to increase the grub screw lengths on the Camber link to outer rear uprights as well as the lower shock to control arm attachments so the car won't fall apart in a long main.
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