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Old 08-24-2009, 07:46 AM   #496
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I think all the cars have the same geometry and are capable of being set up exactly the same if the driver wants. If one car or company engineers something that gives a clear advantage the rest will copy.
Its not like the old days. Ive been out of racing for 8 years and now that I have come back it I feel I can have a top car from purchasing car and engine from my local hobby store.
Collari or Swauger can buy a tuned engine off the shelf and win the nationals.
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Old 08-24-2009, 07:46 AM   #497
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Does any one know the total length of the track, and also the straight away.
I have heard so many different versions on the size of the track.
Also, were the drivers trueing the tires, or running full size tires due to the size of the track.

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Old 08-24-2009, 07:58 AM   #498
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According to their own data overall length is 403m, main straigth is 80m.
http://www.mrtm.ch/pista.php
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Old 08-24-2009, 08:06 AM   #499
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I think strategy and things is one of the major advantage from Collari and his team. They let someone other do the TQ (Pietsch) to let away pressure and main attraction and then show at the right time whoīs the boss.

But as I for myself donīt race gas cars anymore since long a time I still try to understand why Collari could run much longer between each of the pitstops. Anything is different as nobody other could do this from what I saw at the timing stream.
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But as I for myself donīt race gas cars anymore since long a time I still try to understand why Collari could run much longer between each of the pitstops. Anything is different as nobody other could do this from what I saw at the timing stream.
There were others that tried to do it but switched. Picco started out trying a 1 stop but switched to two. I think Josh was trying a 1 stop at the pre worlds but was faster with a 2 stop.
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Old 08-24-2009, 08:35 AM   #501
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Yes I heard some other tried this but they just could do this with slower laptimes. At least at the Main final Collari could last longer and also did very fast laptimes.
Right after the start Collari was chasing Pietsch but made the pitstop much later. I think this way happened through most of the final.
Is there a way for making the engine much more economical than the competitiors?
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Is there a way for making the engine much more economical than the competitiors?
Yes, drive smoother
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I'm sure the engines top world drivers use during the world champ are not same like we use to buy normally from rc shops. I think those engines have the most perfect tolerances and secretly use different material and porting.
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"...after the first round of pit stops was the changing point of the race.
Lamberto pushed hard and for the following 13 laps he averaged 20.190!! sec laptimes.
In the same time and for the following 10 laps Robert averaged 22.230 sec laptimes and..."


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I'm sure the engines top world drivers use during the world champ are not same like we use to buy normally on rc shops. I think those engines have the most perfect tolerances and secretly use different material and porting.
I think they have same porting and same material but if 10 hours of hand tuning( maybe a little smoother sharper edges) will give a tenth of a second advantage then it may be worth it for their marked world engines. I cant imagine the engine makers are going to spend the money to retool their shop.It sounds too expensive.
but im just guessing I realy dont know
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Leave the engine question out of the equation. Pietsch and Collari run factory Novarossi engines and they are most likely prepared equal. However, Colari runs the same laptimes (or even quicker) and pits later then Pietsch. That's the topic we are discussing...
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Everybody is talking about cars (different, modified ect), engines (factory, modified etc). All this been changed over the years, but one thing, nobody mentioned is radio, it is stick radio, not pistol grip and this can play big portion of winning (prove if I am wromg). Never been chaged- Lamberto always use stick radio.

Masami - Stick transmitter
Collari - Stick transmitter
coincidence?

I tried it years ago having started with a stick transmitter and Rough Rider…years of pistol grip use made it almost impossible for me to go back to a stick transmitter…although it was fun trying….

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Masami - Stick transmitter
Collari - Stick transmitter
coincidence?
Some other World Champions from various classes:

Mike Swauger= pistol
Chris Doseck= pistol
Cliff Lett= pistol
Joel Johnson= pistol
Tony Nesinger= pistol
Brian Kinwald= pistol
Matt Francis= pistol
Mark Pavidas= pistol
Greg Degani= pistol
Billy Easton= pistol
Ryan Cavalieri= pistol
Jared Tebo= pistol

It doesn't matter, it's just preference. No performance advantage IMO.

Also, Salven uses stick and we all know about his radio issues
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Some other World Champions from various classes:

Mike Swauger= pistol
Chris Doseck= pistol
Cliff Lett= pistol
Joel Johnson= pistol
Tony Nesinger= pistol
Brian Kinwald= pistol
Matt Francis= pistol
Mark Pavidas= pistol
Greg Degani= pistol
Billy Easton= pistol
Ryan Cavalieri= pistol
Jared Tebo= pistol

It doesn't matter, it's just preference. No performance advantage IMO.

Also, Salven uses stick and we all know about his radio issues
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Without ever having tried one, I think stick radios are more precise. As far as collari running longer on a tank, Im sure there was a lot of engine tunning, different pipes and headers, different compression settings, and a smoother throttle finger. Smoother doesnt mean slower, I think most of us use the the trigger too much as on-off switch, when we go onto the straight we just gun it, and its not needed. Just MHO.
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