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Old 01-15-2010, 12:54 PM   #106
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This may be a stupid question by why do we have the air gap above the floating piston in the top of the shocks,

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Old 01-15-2010, 02:39 PM   #107
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Neil,

I had to remove the carbon bracket and bolt the ball joint on to where the carbon bracket was fixed. Now the ball joints are clear of the wheels. Only now I can't get the ride height down enough as the shocks/springs are too compressed even on the highest shock tower position!

I haven't raced before but would love to have a go, I'm in Woking, Surrey.

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I use the carbon bracket but mount the shock on the inner hole of this, also I have a 6mm gap between the top of the spring adjusting collar and the bottom of the shock absorber cap. I haven't had any problem with ride heights, what are the size of your tyres? We normally start with 69mm fronts and 76mm rears. Some of my set ups for UK tracks are posted at http://www.dhmodelsport.co.uk in the set ups section

Nearest track to you is probably Adur, which is quite small but they are a helpful club who run a good meeting. You can find more info on http://www.brca.org regarding tracks and contacts, and there is a track guide for the 1/8th circuits http://www.brca.org/Sections/cir_ic_...ut%20guide.pdf

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This may be a stupid question by why do we have the air gap above the floating piston in the top of the shocks,

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Because the floating piston moves up and down. It wouldn't work without it.
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Old 01-16-2010, 12:05 AM   #109
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Because the floating piston moves up and down. It wouldn't work without it.
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But surely this is compressing an air gap, which would effect the rebound ?

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Old 01-19-2010, 01:11 AM   #110
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This may be a stupid question by why do we have the air gap above the floating piston in the top of the shocks,

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the piston needs to 'float' so when the shock compresses and the rod moves into the shock, which would otherwise reduce the oil volume. this is the usual source of 'rebound' etc. so instead the piston can move as needed to avoid the need for this volume change.

so in this case, 'rebound' is now only controlled by the stiffness of the spring behind the piston. i 'think' you will find that this spring gives a more consistent rebound to all shocks. (imho, a consistent rebound is more important than a specific amount of rebound.

forgot to add, that the 'air spring' contribution is trivial as long as the air volume is large enough. in the case of the velox/picco shock the air volume is large enough that the steel spring controls the movement. the air spring is trivial in comparison.
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Thanks for the info.

What do you mean by "old" 2008 kit? Does it come with the 09 chassis, the euro 2008 conversion kit and the LGC Rear Bulk Head?

So if it's the case the 600009 kit is coming with the new pouley set, and the upright L+R front and back and exentric?
The old kit did not had the options you mention, furthermore I even think its "end-of-sale". For the current kit, it has a new stiffer chassis and a lot of options (conversion, LGC, new uprights etc etc). I am noit 100% sure if the new pulley set will be part of the new standard kit but I expect so. The excenters for the uprights (and small bearings) must be purchased as option.
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the piston needs to 'float' so when the shock compresses and the rod moves into the shock, which would otherwise reduce the oil volume. this is the usual source of 'rebound' etc. so instead the piston can move as needed to avoid the need for this volume change.

so in this case, 'rebound' is now only controlled by the stiffness of the spring behind the piston. i 'think' you will find that this spring gives a more consistent rebound to all shocks. (imho, a consistent rebound is more important than a specific amount of rebound.

forgot to add, that the 'air spring' contribution is trivial as long as the air volume is large enough. in the case of the velox/picco shock the air volume is large enough that the steel spring controls the movement. the air spring is trivial in comparison.
Tony, thanks for the answer, makes sense now

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The old kit did not had the options you mention, furthermore I even think its "end-of-sale". For the current kit, it has a new stiffer chassis and a lot of options (conversion, LGC, new uprights etc etc). I am noit 100% sure if the new pulley set will be part of the new standard kit but I expect so. The excenters for the uprights (and small bearings) must be purchased as option.
Thanks for the answers.
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Thanks for the answers.
The new pulleys will be in the new kit, its confirmed.
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The new pulleys will be in the new kit, its confirmed.
Good news.

Do you know when the new kit is going to be release?
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Good news.

Do you know when the new kit is going to be release?
I would guess directly after the Toyfair... but ist a guess
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Also we will maybe have a change with the middle belt. As you maybe realized the middle belt is about 1 tooth too long with the new pulleys. So we are testing some belts in the moment, and i am pretty sure that we will have a shorter belt for the new pulleys.

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Could you tell me if you have a release date for the new shorter side belt please?

Also, is there a low-friction front belt available for the '09 pulley set? (I.e. The longer front belt)

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its possible that the 903111 hard chassis plate will be like a part of the new standard kit ?
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hey guys,
i am back to the board and can answer some questions.
The 2010 kit is available from now on, it includes the new
pulleys and pulley adapter and the longer front belt.
Nothing else will be changed.
The new, shorter side belt should be available within the next weeks,
but for sure before the season in most of the countries will start.
The new chassis will not be a part of the 2010 kit, its not a need to have part, you can see it like a setup option part.

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