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Old 10-14-2009, 07:42 AM   #856
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Default Tire size an shore

For me here in Florida, 57mm front 59mm rear is what i use for QLFing only or if there is almost 0 tire wear, an traction is stupid high.Depends on the mains then, i decide what size will work best for me.Also i get with the guys that run before me an see how much wear they had ,and what their tires look like when they come off the track.But please keep us up dated.
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Old 10-14-2009, 03:49 PM   #857
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hey Harry

Ive been using the dark blue from xray and these are xrays softest (25lb) everywhere, i used them at brendale, whalan and even through the whole of qualifying at the recent nationals.

I noticed also the rest of the fast guys use the softest springs, ryan maker used dark blue on his nt1 and the jovanovics used light blue on the kyosho rrr. if you dont have access to the xray springs get some of the mugen purples as you live in mugen country and let me know how you go..also build your shocks with kyosho 450wt or the team magic equivalent.
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Old 10-14-2009, 09:12 PM   #858
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None of it matters if there's not enough front droop to keep the tyre down... But rather than disrepect a great post... I should make the remark...

HOW GOOD IS THIS THREAD!!!

Thanks guys, awesome info

A few more ideas to throw around:

1) We ran in the wet... yes I mean rain.. on foams.. one big drift race... should I have cut the rear belt?

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2) Also am very much relating tyre shore and suspension, stiff suspension, hard shore, softer suspension, softer shore.

Ive been practicing the theory that shore == tyre pressure and with reasonable tyre diameters, 59/61 etc (not low trued <57mm) . The car has more roll with softer suspension, this in turn will run on the edges with hard shore tyres and likely to chunk. With softer shore, the tyre is more maleable and manages the roll of the car onto the softer tyres.

Ideally a fast car is stiff and low, though this isnt always possible, but on a high grip smooth track I was running orange and blues (rear) on 42 shore at 62/60mm.. (Quite large hey!) The car handled really well (better than ever) and Ill be experimenting some more on this principle ..

If the track grip comes up I will be tempted to use the GREY/ORANGE TM on 42's just to find out, so Im going to do it when grip comes up at our local just to find out. (Will just need to avoid the aging bumps)

Ideas? Opinions? am I wrong? are there other factors at play?

Hey Harry i see the age old question of wether to cut the rear belt is still playing on your mind

Have you's raced since the nats yet?
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Old 10-15-2009, 05:07 AM   #859
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Default Soft spring rates.

Hey guys,

On this topic of spring rates, I find soft is good, and dont forget to use roll centre to balance body roll too. Our track is low bite at Penrith (like Whalan) so I use lowest roll centres and softest TM springs to get the body to weight transfer. Even with this and the roll bar flat I only need 3.0deg neg camber on the back to get flat wearing tyres.

The other benefit to soft springs on a low bite track is good weight transfer to the front under brakes so less plough understeer on a hard stop.

I'm going to try lower viscosity shock oil next to make the transfer more violent (600TM ATM with soft springs is a bit of a mismatch)

Any other advice for low bite tracks welcome here.

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Old 10-15-2009, 05:30 AM   #860
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Hey Harry i see the age old question of wether to cut the rear belt is still playing on your mind

Have you's raced since the nats yet?
Heya Freestyles...

Many thanks for the great company at the NATS, the rain washed out the racing but my mates were still there and it made it a memorable occasion to meet up with you and many others again..

Havent been racing as all the cars are stipping to the plates, busy at work and looking to getting a new DX3R for the boys and we'll probably head out for a run at the end of the month. There's a group of guys hooking up to meet at Bayside, it's a public track, though the stand will be full of the best IC drivers we have to offer and it's going to be a good social gathering as well.

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Old 10-15-2009, 07:13 PM   #861
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the stand will be full of the best IC drivers we have to offer and it's going to be a good social gathering as well.

PS: Check PM
I hear someone is making a guest appearence in pro tourer Harry, so you better get Guys car going!!!!!
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Old 10-16-2009, 03:56 AM   #862
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Australia v's New Zealand?

Better still " Brothers of RC " A DRIVERS meet!! And this special guest, must be a good mate with a golden shell

Only smoke you'll see is the beachbum puffing nails in the carpark, race engine needs a good thrashing to get the moisture out of it!

Looking forward to it, Trish's cafe will have me plenty of Coffee so Ill be fuelled with plenty of Nescafe 16%, Dougy should have a big smile coz he just wants to see us having a good time, and Ill try to remember the Aeroguard. Bloody mozzies are out!!

here's some piccies... SOME ARE BIG ONES!!! SHARING THE RC LOVE AND LOVE OF RC

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http://www.beachmumsracing.org.au/wp...stitched_7.jpg

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http://www.beachmumsracing.org.au/wp...titched_10.jpg


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Old 10-16-2009, 04:33 AM   #863
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Please dont crop out the watermarks and if you do...

May a thousand camels spit on your RADIO!!

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Better still " Brothers of RC " A DRIVERS meet!! And this special guest, must be a good mate with a golden shell
This is a possibility....Have to say i am pretty excited about this race meeting...the most excited i have been about racing in quite a while actually.
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Old 10-20-2009, 11:24 AM   #865
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Race #2 of our Forgass Series is done the G4RS 09 is sitting 17th out of 39 sedans will do my best to get in the top 10.Our next race is Nov 7th & 8th Kissimmie Raceway race #3 before the US Open.
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Old 10-20-2009, 02:02 PM   #866
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Race #2 of our Forgass Series is done the G4RS 09 is sitting 17th out of 39 sedans will do my best to get in the top 10.Our next race is Nov 7th & 8th Kissimmie Raceway race #3 before the US Open.
Car did really good still using same setup from Toledo.Only change i made was in my tire shore 35f 37r.
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Guys,

I'm thinking about using soft springs in the front and stiffer springs in the back. I know it goes against the common wisdom but has anyone done something like this before?
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I'm thinking about using soft springs in the front and stiffer springs in the back. I know it goes against the common wisdom but has anyone done something like this before?
Are looking for more steering,or are you wanting to free up the rear more.For me i try an keep the spring rate the same ,an focus on shock oil,piston,an droop,tire shore.Again this is just what works for me.
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I'm thinking about using soft springs in the front and stiffer springs in the back. I know it goes against the common wisdom but has anyone done something like this before?


Im not relaly a fan of harder rear springs as it makes the car twitchy...a softer rear spring i find is best as it gives better traction. I prefer softer springs all round to settle the car then a harder rear swaybar to help it rotate better.

Look at my Setup on the TM website for 2009 australian nationals and give it a go..
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Hi guys last night i found that the same bearings used in the ackerman post can be used on the throttle linkage mixer..i installed these and the throttle mixer feels a lot smoother now with no play as well
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