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Old 05-31-2012, 05:43 AM   #1681
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The screws in front and in the back, depending how hard you screw them in, will give you more or less flex
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Old 07-29-2012, 03:52 AM   #1682
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Default Running the G4RS 09

Hi to everybody!

Anyone is racing the G4 anymore??
As TM do not make a new tenth scale nitro sedan, which improvements should be done on the G4RS 09 to be competitive with the other brands?
I think the G4 is still a good racing car. I like the plastic parts whereas the other brands uses alu all over the their cars.

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Hi to everybody!

Anyone is racing the G4 anymore??
As TM do not make a new tenth scale nitro sedan, which improvements should be done on the G4RS 09 to be competitive with the other brands?
I think the G4 is still a good racing car. I like the plastic parts whereas the other brands uses alu all over the their cars.

Best regard
Rob
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Like you i have a KM Racing H-K1, at first i liked everything being alloy, but after awhile i started to lose screws even with using loctite. Recently i have been working on an Xray NT1 (plastic) and its just a dream just like my old G4's.

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Old 07-30-2012, 01:36 AM   #1684
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Like you i have a KM Racing H-K1, at first i liked everything being alloy, but after awhile i started to lose screws even with using loctite. Recently i have been working on an Xray NT1 (plastic) and its just a dream just like my old G4's.

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Hi Andrew

You are sooo right... That is what I hate so much on the alloy parts, the screws lose itselfs although using loctite..
That's the reason why I wrote on this thread again. I like the plastics much better concerning that losening problem.
I like my H-K1, no doubt, but i still like the G4, i don't know why.
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Old 07-30-2012, 07:13 AM   #1685
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Like you i have a KM Racing H-K1, at first i liked everything being alloy, but after awhile i started to lose screws even with using loctite. Recently i have been working on an Xray NT1 (plastic) and its just a dream just like my old G4's.

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my first generation hk-1 still running well,although i got the evo version and the evoII (just received yesterday,haven't finish assemble),so far i didn't facing any loose screw problem even never apply with loctite.
are you using shorter screw to reduce the weight?
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Old 07-30-2012, 08:16 AM   #1686
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my first generation hk-1 still running well,although i got the evo version and the evoII (just received yesterday,haven't finish assemble),so far i didn't facing any loose screw problem even never apply with loctite.
are you using shorter screw to reduce the weight?
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No, i use the screws which comes with the kit.
Especially losen screws I faced with the rear bulk, where the brake pads are attached. They have an excessive play in the bulk.
Also the screws under the chassis plate were losen.
But anyway, I still like my H-K1 !
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Old 07-30-2012, 09:40 PM   #1687
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my first generation hk-1 still running well,although i got the evo version and the evoII (just received yesterday,haven't finish assemble),so far i didn't facing any loose screw problem even never apply with loctite.
are you using shorter screw to reduce the weight?
Standard screws, have lost quite a few screws from the rear off the radio tray since doing the side battery conversion. And also lost screws out of throttle servo horn which is a big concern for me!

I got my Evo II yesterday, I think i will put it away for now!

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Old 10-23-2012, 07:53 AM   #1688
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Default G4RS racing

Hello I read that a lot of people ara asking if anyone still race with G4RS. Yes I still race In last season 2011/2012 i got the 4º place in Portuguese Champioship.

I 'm now preparing the new season where the RULES of weight decreased, Now are allowed to race until 1550g, I'm some what bored because my car have 1800g and i only can to 1700g... Team Magic have to create a new car more lighter......

regards,
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Hello I read that a lot of people ara asking if anyone still race with G4RS. Yes I still race In last season 2011/2012 i got the 4º place in Portuguese Champioship.

I 'm now preparing the new season where the RULES of weight decreased, Now are allowed to race until 1550g, I'm some what bored because my car have 1800g and i only can to 1700g... Team Magic have to create a new car more lighter......

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Congrats to your 4th place!
Also in Switzerland the rules changed in weight concern.

Unfortunately TM will not release a new 10th nitro sedan in the future.
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Old 10-23-2012, 11:56 AM   #1690
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Default Setups and Tricks

Hello i sugest to the competion drivers to post the setups that are using, and tricks......

For me the usually setup was:

Front:
Diff Oil: 80000 or 100000
Camber: 2
Caster: Middle
COnverg: +1
Springs: Purple


Rear:
Diff Oil: 20000
CAmber: 4, sometimes 5
COnv: 2,5
Springs: Pink

Shock Oil Front&Rear: 500

Tires Matrix (Varies but the general setup was this):
Front LEft: 35
Front Right:37
Rear Left: 37
Rear Right: 40


Kfactory:
k14202
k14200
k14257
k14213
k14217
k14216
k14220
k14219

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Old 10-24-2012, 03:04 AM   #1691
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Hello i sugest to the competion drivers to post the setups that are using, and tricks......

For me the usually setup was:

Front:
Diff Oil: 80000 or 100000
Camber: 2
Caster: Middle
COnverg: +1
Springs: Purple


Rear:
Diff Oil: 20000
CAmber: 4, sometimes 5
COnv: 2,5
Springs: Pink

Kfactory:
k14202
k14200
k14257
k14213
k14217
k14216
k14220
k14219
For me the best setup was the following:

Front:
Diff Oil: 200'000
Camber: 1.5
Caster: 2mm front
Toe Out: +1
Shock Oil: K-Factory 450, 2 holes
Springs: TM blue 1.7 (for technical track)
xray purple 1.8 (for open track)
Shock position: all way down
Tire: ATS 37

Rear:
Diff Oil: 60'000
Camber: 3.5 (tire wear in and out the same)
Toe In: 3
Shock Oil: K-Factory 450, 3 holes
Springs: TM blue 1.7 (for technical track)
xray purple 1.8 (for open track)
shock position: lower arm inside, upper position 2nd from inside (for technical track)
lower arm outside, upper position 1st from inside (for open tracks)
Tire: ATS 40

others:
rear CVD's K-Factory
left carbon side plate K-Factory
lightweight clutch housing K-Factory
lightweight spur gears K-Factory
high grip clutch yellow K-Factory
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Couldn't believe it.
have been on race track with my G4RSII and the lap times were not that bad for this "oldie" (with standard setup!) against the '13 NT1's

still love this car!
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I got tons of parts and I am selling them cheap
I close down my store about a year ago so I got this parts left with me.

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Hello I read that a lot of people ara asking if anyone still race with G4RS. Yes I still race In last season 2011/2012 i got the 4º place in Portuguese Champioship.

I 'm now preparing the new season where the RULES of weight decreased, Now are allowed to race until 1550g, I'm some what bored because my car have 1800g and i only can to 1700g... Team Magic have to create a new car more lighter......

regards,
Hi hsmofm ....

Do not dispair over the weight of the G4.
I ran the G4 for quite some time. Mainly in England but the latter years here in the states.
With effort you can get the G4 weight down to a very reasonable level.
The lightest I got mine, eventually was 1620g
Had Titanium everything ..... and ally parts too....
The plastics are a better quality so I used these extensively too.

Weight distribution is important on the car. Try to get 50/50 front to back and side to side.

Good luck.
Ps: I still have an RS 2009 kit in the box ready to build. Maybe this will spur me on to build it.

Regards
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PS: My last weight reduction project reulted in my CAP C-02 becoming 1290g !! A little too light!! Lol
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Couldn't believe it.
have been on race track with my G4RSII and the lap times were not that bad for this "oldie" (with standard setup!) against the '13 NT1's

still love this car!

Robby,

How did this compare to your super light C02WC?

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