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Old 08-07-2010, 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by gfilos
if installing the long rods you can get them more than 68mm something between 70~72mm when full extended. the length of the body
including the plastic ball joint at top is 39.2mm
what about from hole to hole?
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Old 08-07-2010, 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Team Kamikaze
You don't use a sway bar on the DLS!
I did not use a rear sway bar, however, Paolo and Salven did. The car with the DLS has more rear grip, which I like. Those guys wanted more steering so they added the rear swaybar.
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Old 08-07-2010, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by stefan
Scott, how difficult is it to get the DLS system adjusted correctly and how hard is it to keep it that way?
I did not personally install it, my mechanic at the Worlds, Jim Adkins did, but it was easy to get setup and install, and we never had to readjust it.
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Old 08-07-2010, 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by stefan
Scott, how difficult is it to get the DLS system adjusted correctly and how hard is it to keep it that way?
Hey Stefan, There is a set measurement for the long rods. Between the ball cup I think it's 47.7, I will double check. No adjustments needed after that. I ran without the sway bar most of the time. I did try it with the sway bar and gained more steering. It changes the car but only took half a tank to adjust to it. After that it felt normal.
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Old 08-07-2010, 07:54 AM
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Hate to change the subject. I've been looking at the serpent clutch on the 733 and I've come to the conclusion; that on the 733 clutch you can not properly measure the clutch shoe gap with a Hudy or EDS clutch gauge/tool. The thrust bearing is recessed inside the clutch bell. Am i correct in this statement.

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Old 08-07-2010, 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by lil-bump
Hate to change the subject. I been looking at the serpent clutch on the 733 and I've come to the conclusion; that on the 733 clutch you can not properly measure the clutch shoe gap with a Hudy or EDS clutch gauge/tool. The thrust bearing is recessed inside the clutch bell. Am i correct in this statement.

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Remove the first gear pinion, then you're able to use the Hudy tool.
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Old 08-07-2010, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by DS Motorsport
Remove the first gear pinion, then you're able to use the Hudy tool.
still wont help, as the pinion is just about flush with the end of the bell thread.

Sam had a good tool before to set clutch gap.
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Old 08-07-2010, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Pattojnr
still wont help, as the pinion is just about flush with the end of the bell thread.

Sam had a good tool before to set clutch gap.
I've set the WC clutch hundreds of times in this way with the Hudy tool.
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Old 08-07-2010, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by DS Motorsport
I've set the WC clutch hundreds of times in this way with the Hudy tool.
maybe its just the 8th thats flush, when your in a hurry to set your clutch for a Main and dont have much time, the Tool Sam at Kamikaze has is the quickest option, and who wants to be taking the 1st pinion off all the time Specially when your rushed. But it may be possible with the WC tourer clutch to do it that way. Sorry DS.
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Old 08-07-2010, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Pattojnr
still wont help, as the pinion is just about flush with the end of the bell thread.

Sam had a good tool before to set clutch gap.

I take it your talking about Sam @ Kamekaze. What was the name of the tool? Is it the caliper gauge?


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Old 08-07-2010, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by lil-bump
I take it your talking about Sam @ Kamekaze. What was the name of tool?
Is it the caliper gauge?


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http://www.kamikazetoysandhobbies.co...php?prod=TTCT1
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Old 08-07-2010, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by LiL_JaSoN
what about from hole to hole?
From end to end default by manual is 68mm, however
installing long rods can help you to achieve 70-72mm. So, the distances in
your drawing are 68mm (70-72mm using long rods) and 39.2mm. Hole to hole
i dont know maybe 3-4mm less overall.
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Old 08-07-2010, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Scott Kimbrow
I did not use a rear sway bar, however, Paolo and Salven did. The car with the DLS has more rear grip, which I like. Those guys wanted more steering so they added the rear swaybar.
A next step with that much grip could be a rear solid axle making the car more like a 1/8 car and with less weight in the drivetrain also better accelerating.
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Old 08-07-2010, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott Kimbrow
...The car with the DLS has more rear grip, which I like...
Would this enable you to run a harder shore in the rear to help improve tire wear and yet still get good grip?
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Originally Posted by Scott Kimbrow
I did not use a rear sway bar, however, Paolo and Salven did. The car with the DLS has more rear grip, which I like. Those guys wanted more steering so they added the rear swaybar.
what tire shore was run front and back
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