Serpent 733 1/10 200mm touring
04-09-2010, 09:12 PM
#2161
04-09-2010, 09:14 PM
#2162
04-09-2010, 10:40 PM
#2163
Reducing toe-in will not help you, instead it will make it worse (increase off-throttle oversteer) . Leave it 3 degrees.
As for the diffs: try running thinner oil at the rear diff or/and thicker oil at the front diff. As a general rule, when the rear end
of the car doesnt have traction, we try to "borrow" some traction from the front (and vice versa).
Have a look on the setup book, it has nice info at the end with setup solutions to every problem (oversteer, understeer)
and when it appears (corner entry, middle, exit). If not available under 733 section, i am sure is available under 720 section. Make one change at a time and see how it works. Try first the changes with the highest priority (1,2,3, ..etc).
Good luck
As for the diffs: try running thinner oil at the rear diff or/and thicker oil at the front diff. As a general rule, when the rear end
of the car doesnt have traction, we try to "borrow" some traction from the front (and vice versa).
Have a look on the setup book, it has nice info at the end with setup solutions to every problem (oversteer, understeer)
and when it appears (corner entry, middle, exit). If not available under 733 section, i am sure is available under 720 section. Make one change at a time and see how it works. Try first the changes with the highest priority (1,2,3, ..etc).
Good luck
04-10-2010, 08:15 PM
#2165
Thank you very much for the elboration.. Right now I have chane my chamber and toe in to 2.5 degree..
Diff oil I chanGe back to 30000cst. I also change droop from 3 to 2 due to my track which is quite bumpy.. I want to let the rear end to have more suspension travel under hard acceleration..
Diff oil I chanGe back to 30000cst. I also change droop from 3 to 2 due to my track which is quite bumpy.. I want to let the rear end to have more suspension travel under hard acceleration..
Reducing toe-in will not help you, instead it will make it worse (increase off-throttle oversteer) . Leave it 3 degrees.
As for the diffs: try running thinner oil at the rear diff or/and thicker oil at the front diff. As a general rule, when the rear end
of the car doesnt have traction, we try to "borrow" some traction from the front (and vice versa).
Have a look on the setup book, it has nice info at the end with setup solutions to every problem (oversteer, understeer)
and when it appears (corner entry, middle, exit). If not available under 733 section, i am sure is available under 720 section. Make one change at a time and see how it works. Try first the changes with the highest priority (1,2,3, ..etc).
Good luck
As for the diffs: try running thinner oil at the rear diff or/and thicker oil at the front diff. As a general rule, when the rear end
of the car doesnt have traction, we try to "borrow" some traction from the front (and vice versa).
Have a look on the setup book, it has nice info at the end with setup solutions to every problem (oversteer, understeer)
and when it appears (corner entry, middle, exit). If not available under 733 section, i am sure is available under 720 section. Make one change at a time and see how it works. Try first the changes with the highest priority (1,2,3, ..etc).
Good luck
04-10-2010, 08:23 PM
#2166
My setup is 50000 rear diff oil,80000 for front diff.
Rear toe in at 2.5 degree, chamber at 2.5 degree for rear, droop at 3.
For front toe out is 2 degree,chamber at 2 degree, droop at 0.
All the chamber link and shock position I jus follow stock setup sheet for front and rear.
Above is my second session ,my first session is with 30000cst rear diff oil, with both sane setup, my car still fish tail during exit of corner, it get wilder when tyre wearS down. I suspect perhaps spring or droop may helps..
Rear toe in at 2.5 degree, chamber at 2.5 degree for rear, droop at 3.
For front toe out is 2 degree,chamber at 2 degree, droop at 0.
All the chamber link and shock position I jus follow stock setup sheet for front and rear.
Above is my second session ,my first session is with 30000cst rear diff oil, with both sane setup, my car still fish tail during exit of corner, it get wilder when tyre wearS down. I suspect perhaps spring or droop may helps..
04-10-2010, 11:15 PM
#2167
Tech Initiate
My setup is 50000 rear diff oil,80000 for front diff.
Rear toe in at 2.5 degree, chamber at 2.5 degree for rear, droop at 3.
For front toe out is 2 degree,chamber at 2 degree, droop at 0.
All the chamber link and shock position I jus follow stock setup sheet for front and rear.
Above is my second session ,my first session is with 30000cst rear diff oil, with both sane setup, my car still fish tail during exit of corner, it get wilder when tyre wearS down. I suspect perhaps spring or droop may helps..
Rear toe in at 2.5 degree, chamber at 2.5 degree for rear, droop at 3.
For front toe out is 2 degree,chamber at 2 degree, droop at 0.
All the chamber link and shock position I jus follow stock setup sheet for front and rear.
Above is my second session ,my first session is with 30000cst rear diff oil, with both sane setup, my car still fish tail during exit of corner, it get wilder when tyre wearS down. I suspect perhaps spring or droop may helps..
04-11-2010, 01:38 AM
#2168
04-11-2010, 11:21 AM
#2169
id try 200,000 front and 30,000 rear that would prolly take care of alot and do the sway bar mod and u should be right there. atleast thats what im hoping on my car lol.
04-11-2010, 06:43 PM
#2170
04-11-2010, 09:57 PM
#2171
Tech Initiate
04-12-2010, 02:15 AM
#2173
That is true in part, but there is more difference caused by incomplete filling of diffs. I've seen many diffs which were not filled completely and thus felt "soft" for the oil that was supposedly inside.
04-12-2010, 09:33 PM
#2174
04-15-2010, 04:50 PM
#2175
Tech Regular
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