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Old 11-09-2009, 09:00 AM   #1456
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The belt tensionor is kind strange on design. If I mount it on top of 2F, it doesnt hold the belt tie enough even the bearing goes all the way down. However, if I mount it under 2F (like some explained back at Aug), belt get too tied even the bearing goes all the way up.

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Old 11-09-2009, 12:17 PM   #1457
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The belt tensionor is kind strange on design. If I mount it on top of 2F, it doesnt hold the belt tie enough even the bearing goes all the way down. However, if I mount it under 2F (like some explained back at Aug), belt get too tied even the bearing goes all the way up.

Any suggestion? (black belt, new assembled)
i got the holder on top but i am using a bigger pulley from my 1/8th scale . http://www.bartzrcpartz.com.au/store...&productId=276 works perfect.
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Old 11-09-2009, 12:40 PM   #1458
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I have mine mount on top and dont have any issues with it. Are you using the right size bearing?
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Old 11-09-2009, 01:32 PM   #1459
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I am using it under the radio tray with the black belt and all the way soft. It works fine and is very free. I am have been using the original black side belt since I have been running the car. I have only had to change the rear and front when needed.

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Old 11-09-2009, 06:10 PM   #1460
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I am using it under the radio tray with the black belt and all the way soft. It works fine and is very free. I am have been using the original black side belt since I have been running the car. I have only had to change the rear and front when needed.

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Like DJ I have been running it under the radio tray. Although I have only had to replace the rear and side belt since running the car. No issues with the front belt.
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Old 11-09-2009, 06:18 PM   #1461
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Anyone have a baseline setup for Kissimmee R/C Raceway yet?

Thanks in advance!
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Old 11-09-2009, 08:11 PM   #1462
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I ran there this past weekend and my car was pretty good. I will post my set-up on the main serpent site in the next couple of days. Here is my set-up without the set-up sheet.

front

middle roll center
short wheel base
2.2 sway bar
-1 toe
198 width
5mm caster in front of arms
35 shore (twister tires) 57mm
2 camber left and 1.5 right
forward and out on the ackerman
-1 droop
blue springs with 800wt oil, 1 hole piston and 2nd hole from bottom
150,000 front diff

rear

lowest roll center
short wheel base
2.3 rear sway bar
199 width
1mm under camber link on hub
camber link on tower is lowest outside position
+2 toe
rear springs with 800wt, 2 hole, 2nd position from bottom
4 camber left and 3 right
3 droop
40,000 diff oil
40 shore (twister tires)

Nova motor - 353 tuned, 2652 pipe/short header
Gearing - 17/60, 23/55 ( mid range is more important than top, just to note)
Altis Blitz body
Twister Tires

Things I will try next time. Middle roll center in the rear, stiffer rear sway bar, a little heavier diff in rear. The front seemed pretty good, maybe just the lowest roll center position to see how it reacts.

Till next time!!!

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Old 11-09-2009, 09:11 PM   #1463
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I also ran this past weekend at Kissimmee and this is what I ran.

Front

long wheel base
Middle roll center
track width 199
Stock sway bar/flush
2deg camber
2mm caster
ackerman back & wide
-1 toe out
blue spring/#1 piston/ 900 cst oil/2nd hole from bottom
200,000 cst in diff
35 or 37 shore twister
ride ht 6mm
-1 droop

Rear

1mm short wheelbase
roll center bottom
track width 200mm
2.3 sway bar
3 toe in
4 camber
link=2mm shim on upright/inside hole
link=inside hole second from bottom
red spring/#2 piston/900 cst/2nd hole from bottom
6.5 ride ht
50,000 cst in diff
droop 3mm
40 or 42 shore Twister

gearing 17/23 60/54 with a Novarossi 353 tuned '08
Blitz Altis 2.3 wing 5mm back.

I tried 40fr/45rr in the B main but it didn't work all that well for me. I could not get on the power as it was just too loose on power.
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Old 11-10-2009, 12:50 AM   #1464
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hey..does anyone has the gearing ratios and CST to WT coversion for the 733?if yes,pls provide with me with a link..

anyways to DJ,wat would your advice on the gearing for the 353 (since im using one too) on a very small,tight and low traction track?and pls do advice on other setups such as wheelbase,diff oils etc..and to all other guys out there,really appreciate if you can share ur views as well..
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Here's a link to a conversion chart.

http://www.twf8.ws/php/index.php?opt...per&Itemid=175
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I ran there this past weekend and my car was pretty good. I will post my set-up on the main serpent site in the next couple of days. Here is my set-up without the set-up sheet.

front

middle roll center
short wheel base
2.2 sway bar
-1 toe
198 width
5mm caster in front of arms
35 shore (twister tires) 57mm
2 camber left and 1.5 right
forward and out on the ackerman
-1 droop
blue springs with 800wt oil, 1 hole piston and 2nd hole from bottom
150,000 front diff

rear

lowest roll center
short wheel base
2.3 rear sway bar
199 width
1mm under camber link on hub
camber link on tower is lowest outside position
+2 toe
rear springs with 800wt, 2 hole, 2nd position from bottom
4 camber left and 3 right
3 droop
40,000 diff oil
40 shore (twister tires)

Nova motor - 353 tuned, 2652 pipe/short header
Gearing - 17/60, 23/55 ( mid range is more important than top, just to note)
Altis Blitz body
Twister Tires

Things I will try next time. Middle roll center in the rear, stiffer rear sway bar, a little heavier diff in rear. The front seemed pretty good, maybe just the lowest roll center position to see how it reacts.

Till next time!!!

DJ Apolaro
Hey DJ what color springs did you use in the rear?

Thanks
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Old 11-10-2009, 11:32 AM   #1467
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I used reds this race. Normally I use pinks.

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Old 11-10-2009, 03:03 PM   #1468
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Gulf Coast GP

Our drivers did a great job gathering a lot of info for the upcoming WC as well as having a great result in the Main.

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http://serpent.com/news/12859/Test-r...uston,-Tx.html
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Old 11-11-2009, 06:28 AM   #1469
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I used reds this race. Normally I use pinks.

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Did you try the spool? Or was the traction not really high enough to go with the spool?

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Old 11-11-2009, 07:02 AM   #1470
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I tried it, but the diff was better. The turn are more open and flowing now and the lock was not carring enough corner speed. Maybe with more time I could get it better, but with running both cars I was limited to the work I could really do.

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