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Old 08-19-2010, 11:16 AM   #2881
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So you're getting rich quick by selling at a higher price? Or are you getting screwed by your distributor because you have to sell at a high price to remain profitable for you?

Like I said, its a problem that Serpent must fix so that the costs are fair to all Serpent dealers worldwide.



That may be so in the past but you would have to expect product to reach the shelves about 3 months later from when it ships.

Remember, we're talking about airfreight from China to get the product on the shelves within weeks of the Worlds not months. Obviously, airfreight costs are much much more.

By the way not all containers get priority to be shipped right away. So product can take even longer to get on the shelves.
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No, I am not getting rich at all, because nobody buys that freakin' regulator for 51 Euros, they all order them in Italy
Further, my buying price is 10 Euros higher than what the Italians sell it for, so my margin is very low.

As for the airfreight shipping: What do you realistically think, how many of those DLS kits will be sold in the US in the next 3 month (before the regular sea shipment arrives)?
500? 1000? (I don't even think that there are that many 733 in the US.)

Now, look at the package size and put 1000 of them in a box. It's not very big, right?
50 bucks shipping for that box at the most.

Broken down per DLS kit = 5 cents shipping cost per kit...........

All the importers are trying to blame shipping for high prices. It's mostly BS.
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Now, look at the package size and put 1000 of them in a box. It's not very big, right?
50 bucks shipping for that box at the most.

Broken down per DLS kit = 5 cents shipping cost per kit...........

All the importers are trying to blame shipping for high prices. It's mostly BS.
Actually I would estimate that it was less than 500 brought in. Also the airfreight number is much more than $50 (hell Fedex wanted charge me $80 just ship a small item to my inlaws in Korea) plus you need to include customs. Hence the amortization is more per kit.

Also this is a hot item after just being introduced at the Worlds. So Serpent would price it in a way to take advantage of the demand. Thats marketing plain and simple. However, like you Kamikaze also works on low margins so he's not getting rich quick either. In fact he sold out of all 20 kits that was alotted to him in less than a week and he still gets calls inquiring about the DLS availability.
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Old 08-19-2010, 12:53 PM   #2883
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guys this is a thread about 733, not about a particular store and its pricing.
Enough about advertisement and defending of a particular store.
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Old 08-19-2010, 07:22 PM   #2884
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guys this is a thread about 733, not about a particular store and its pricing.
Enough about advertisement and defending of a particular store.
My goodness I agree, how to ruin a good Forum, get over it.
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What alternatives are there with the belts.

The orange ones last forever (I am still running the originals), but make the drive train too heavy

The black optional ones really free the drive train nicely, but wear out after one club day.

I keep hearing about Team Titan, MLB, etc etc belts that fit, would appreciate if someone can provide links or part numbers of where to buy them

How efficient are these other belts, and how long do they last?
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Old 08-19-2010, 07:37 PM   #2886
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Also, see attached manual for DLS....

As you can see, quiet a bit of graphite, machined alloy, bearings, etc included...
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Old 08-19-2010, 10:49 PM   #2887
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What alternatives are there with the belts.

The orange ones last forever (I am still running the originals), but make the drive train too heavy

The black optional ones really free the drive train nicely, but wear out after one club day.

I keep hearing about Team Titan, MLB, etc etc belts that fit, would appreciate if someone can provide links or part numbers of where to buy them

How efficient are these other belts, and how long do they last?
They're available on Ebay
http://stores.ebay.com/Nowinghobby_S...34Q2ec0Q2em322

Here's the Mfg website:
http://www.toughracing.com/zc126d/in...86c8284b12ff59

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What alternatives are there with the belts.

The orange ones last forever (I am still running the originals), but make the drive train too heavy

The black optional ones really free the drive train nicely, but wear out after one club day.

I keep hearing about Team Titan, MLB, etc etc belts that fit, would appreciate if someone can provide links or part numbers of where to buy them

How efficient are these other belts, and how long do they last?
Hey Micky,

I can get you a set of Team Titan belts for your 733 to try (i will get a price for ya first) as JPM Racing are the Australian Importer for these and i also beleive the Team Titan are an MBL belt as well. Anyway let us know.

Cheers Michael
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Also, see attached manual for DLS....

As you can see, quiet a bit of graphite, machined alloy, bearings, etc included...
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Thanks,

Have you tried these belts?

I take it all the "MLB" labelled belts are made in the same factory, just branded differently?
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As I know on Tough Racing belts are made with MBL or BANDO brand. Same qualitity.
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Has any one had a chance to test out the new rear end. I Eexperience that this system gives you less traction than the original sway bar. the whole day searched for MORE rear traction . i thought this new linking system was designed to help plant the rear end. Please some one tell me there experience, I want to know if im the only one.
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Has any one had a chance to test out the new rear end. I Eexperience that this system gives you less traction than the original sway bar. the whole day searched for MORE rear traction . i thought this new linking system was designed to help plant the rear end. Please some one tell me there experience, I want to know if im the only one.
Interesting.....

Were you running the rear sway bar with the DLS? Was camber set at 2.5 deg?
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Does anyone have a picture of the DLS system with the swaybar attached? Mainly the spur gear side. Just from a glance it does not look like it will fit and will rub on the spur gear.

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