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Old 08-18-2010, 11:04 AM   #2866
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But a much better price than 148usd.......
Since when do you care? You dont even drive a Serpent.

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How the f$** can kami charge me $148.40 , and then 1 day later somone is selling it for $87 wow i glad i never brought it off them
When you add all the shipping cost to the U.S. from the factory that price is very good, and all the support you get from Kamikaze. This other guy is in Hong Kong, his shiping is cost is not a lot.
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How the f$** can kami charge me $148.40 , and then 1 day later somone is selling it for $87 wow i glad i never brought it off them
You can't blame Kamikaze for that. His price is set by Serpent America.

The HK dealers are getting their stuff out the back door of the mfg in China who makes the parts for Serpent. These parts are outside the distribution network of Serpent NL. It is problem that Serpent needs to handle.
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Old 08-18-2010, 11:31 AM   #2868
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You can't blame Kamikaze for that. His price is set by Serpent America.

The HK dealers are getting their stuff out the back door of the mfg in China who makes the parts for Serpent. These parts are outside the distribution network of Serpent NL. It is problem that Serpent needs to handle.
Yep, black market
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When you add all the shipping cost to the U.S. from the factory that price is very good, and all the support you get from Kamikaze. This other guy is in Hong Kong, his shiping is cost is not a lot.
I want to add that these parts were avalable at the shop within 2 weeks of the Worlds where it was introduced. Usually this kind of expediency doesn't happen with new products. For it to be available like this, air freight from the mfg is involved. That adds a lot to the product cost which has to be passed to the consumer. Obviously, the dealers over there in China don't have to worry about air freight, customs and duty to get the product on their shelves.

If you choose to support the HK dealers, then do so at your own risk. I've heard many stories from fellow racers who've had issues with HK dealers in regards to warranty and customer service. That is something which is never a problem with a trusted dealer like Kamikaze.
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I want to add that these parts were avalable at the shop within 2 weeks of the Worlds where it was introduced. Usually this kind of expediency doesn't happen with new products. For it to be available like this, air freight from the mfg is involved. That adds a lot to the product cost which has to be passed to the consumer. Obviously, the dealers over there in China don't have to worry about air freight, customs and duty to get the product on their shelves.

If you choose to support the HK dealers, then do so at your own risk. I've heard many stories from fellow racers who've had issues with HK dealers in regards to warranty and customer service. That is something which is never a problem with a trusted dealer like Kamikaze.
The problem is the same between France and America. If i choose to support the US dealers, then do so at my own risk.
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Old 08-18-2010, 03:26 PM   #2871
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The problem is the same between France and America. If i choose to support the US dealers, then do so at my own risk.
If you call or e-mail Kamikaze he WILL help you, its not at your own risk with Sam, no matter what country you order from.
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Old 08-18-2010, 03:35 PM   #2872
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The problem is the same between France and America. If i choose to support the US dealers, then do so at my own risk.
Honestly I wouldn't buy anything from France either. Same difference.
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That's a killer deal!
it is used or new?? sorry...I'm thinking about going nitro again..I used to have the Xary NT1..thanks...
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Today updated fixed price $119 W/Free Shipping
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Today updated fixed price $119 W/Free Shipping
lol.

is roll centre adjustable on the dls? it looks as it is fixed in 1 position.
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is roll centre adjustable on the dls? it looks as it is fixed in 1 position.
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You can't blame Kamikaze for that. His price is set by Serpent America.

The HK dealers are getting their stuff out the back door of the mfg in China who makes the parts for Serpent. These parts are outside the distribution network of Serpent NL. It is problem that Serpent needs to handle.
Think again.
It's mostly the local importers / distributors.

I am a dealer who has the full Serpent, Xceed, Mega and Max portfolio.

Just an example: The Xceed LiPo regulator has an MSRP of 51!! here in Germany.
The Italian Serpent importer (Fabio Domanin) is selling those for 25. Same distance, taxes and freight cost for both countries.

That's 10 bucks less than what I pay as a dealer.

Same goes for many other parts.

Soem people just want to get rich quickly
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Since when do you care? You dont even drive a Serpent.



When you add all the shipping cost to the U.S. from the factory that price is very good, and all the support you get from Kamikaze. This other guy is in Hong Kong, his shiping is cost is not a lot.
Shipping cost are peanuts.

I have shipped from and to US in containers, just as Serpent does from China and it costs about $ 1000 to move a 40 ft container overseas.
Now, break this down on all the single parts you can stuff into a 40 ft container and you are talking cents.

My entire household with two cars was shipped in two 40 footers for $ 1980 from Charleston to Germany.
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Think again.
It's mostly the local importers / distributors.

I am a dealer who has the full Serpent, Xceed, Mega and Max portfolio.

Just an example: The Xceed LiPo regulator has an MSRP of 51!! here in Germany.
The Italian Serpent importer (Fabio Domanin) is selling those for 25. Same distance, taxes and freight cost for both countries.

That's 10 bucks less than what I pay as a dealer.

Same goes for many other parts.

Soem people just want to get rich quickly
So you're getting rich quick by selling at a higher price? Or are you getting screwed by your distributor because you have to sell at a high price to remain profitable for you?

Like I said, its a problem that Serpent must fix so that the costs are fair to all Serpent dealers worldwide.

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Shipping cost are peanuts.

I have shipped from and to US in containers, just as Serpent does from China and it costs about $ 1000 to move a 40 ft container overseas.
Now, break this down on all the single parts you can stuff into a 40 ft container and you are talking cents.

My entire household with two cars was shipped in two 40 footers for $ 1980 from Charleston to Germany.
That may be so in the past but you would have to expect product to reach the shelves about 3 months later from when it ships.

Remember, we're talking about airfreight from China to get the product on the shelves within weeks of the Worlds not months. Obviously, airfreight costs are much much more.

By the way not all containers get priority to be shipped right away. So product can take even longer to get on the shelves.
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