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Old 06-05-2009, 04:28 AM   #16
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sorry guys for posting so much ...dont have much work to do today..

in my opinion i say learn & follow from VTA they allow any chassis

u can get a used or outdated version of a race spec chassis (TMrs,koyosho,mugen mrx4) for pretty cheap or equal to a entry level car so i would say lets just follow suit with the origanal VTA class'es that are ran at the club level ie relaxed motor/esc rules any chassis ...WHY cuz it will bring more racers to the class ....if it go's main stream then maybe later on start transitioning to a spec motor rule?...

just my 2cents ...im in iraq trying to cheerlead a new class..
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Old 06-05-2009, 09:26 AM   #17
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Funny you guys are mentioning a spec motor. Last spring, when we were kicking around ideas, some guys here thought it might be a good idea.

Here is the old thread that we kicked it around on....

http://www.rctech.net/forum/racing-f...-trans-am.html

It should be good reading, but please don't post to it. It's a dead thread....

Since then, the spec motor concept hasn't caught on, because IMHO, guys didn't want to spend that kind of money for a class that is new, and unsure if it will take off.

Personally, it will be far better to just let guys run what they have, to keep the costs down. We "fine tuned" our specs since then, after talking to our racers, and came up with what we have now.

Another thing to keep in mind is track size. What works in one area, might not work in another. We love our parking lot set ups, so mid level/RTR cars are perfect.

On larger, permanent tracks, they may be a little boring, so class specs should reflect the facility.

See what your local track can handle and design specs around that.
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...im in iraq trying to cheerlead a new class..
Wow! Stay safe my man....
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Old 06-05-2009, 09:44 AM   #19
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Yes.. stay safe....

Question: what kind of chassie's ya'll are running...I am looking at running nitro VTA/NASTRUCK... not sure what to run.. TC3 nitro/XRAY/others... I have "heard" that the TC3 nitro is considered "old" technology.. but..

Any suggestions...

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hey if u guys are looking to try and run this class will be running at 301 raceway in marylan for the hpi challange
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The way I see it, any chassis from the old school nitro RS4 to the current Xray NT1 and all in between would be eligible (including the Traxxas nitro 4-tec). The same electric VTA body and tire rules apply. I suggested a "spec" engine and pipe as to level the playing field since each car is internally geared different and with so many cars, it would almost be impossible to do absolute FDRs like in the electric class. Some are balking at having a spec engine but I see it as if everyone has equal power, then it would be a matter of who sets there car up better, drive better, and make the fewest mistakes. This way, you have similar uniformity like the battery/motor rules coupled with the FDR for the current electric VTA class. Too many engines, including the high-dollar mods that some with eventual run, will, in my opinion, be more of a detriment to this class than an attraction. Plus, many can obtain the engine I suggested (OS 12tg) for around $110; much cheaper than many of the competition engines that you have in your arsenal.

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Too many engines, including the high-dollar mods that some with eventual run, will, in my opinion, be more of a detriment to this class than an attraction. Plus, many can obtain the engine I suggested (OS 12tg) for around $110; much cheaper than many of the competition engines that you have in your arsenal.

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By all means, if you can get the support by using a spec engine, go for it!

It hasn't taken off here, but that's not to say that it couldn't work there, or anyplace else....

Every R/C club or track should use guidelines that will work best for them.

There is just too many variables in nitro, to try to come up with a "standard" set of rules for everyone, like the USVTA.

Just incorporate the vintage bodies, wheels, and tires, and go raCIN'!!!!!!

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Yes.. stay safe....

Question: what kind of chassie's ya'll are running...I am looking at running nitro VTA/NASTRUCK... not sure what to run.. TC3 nitro/XRAY/others... I have "heard" that the TC3 nitro is considered "old" technology.. but..

Any suggestions...

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We have a little bit of everything, especially HPI RTR's. I have one too, and that's all I need to get my nitro vintage fix....LOL

I've seen Kyoshos, Mugens, and anything else racers had sitting around....

On a smaller track like ours, anything will work, since driving skill is more important than speed.

On a big track you might want to look at a better chassis with more tuning options....
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Ray....you had to be cheating....the way you laid the smackdown on those guys just kiddin excellent drive bro, unless you were that yellow car that was flying all over the place
Naw, can't take that credit....it wasn't me driving the blue mustang.

He probably was cheating though....just kidding....
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I am gonna be running a high speed oval track.. I am also gonna ask what the local club members are gonna run ...
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Just incorporate the vintage bodies, wheels, and tires, and go raCIN'!!!!!!



thats what im gonna try to do in my area ...everything else is gonna be run what u got...and i bet we still will have good racing
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"...im in iraq trying to cheerlead a new class.."


been there, done that... stay safe! unless you airforce...then stay busy. it gets boring fast, i like this idea and hope it takes off! keep the idea pushing.
and i think your right lets just start with what you got... the tires will hurt the HO motors and you'll be beter off with a lower powerd one. i like the fact these classes dont take a whole alot of time and money to have fun in. save my time for other events.
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well lets not let this thread die, the more pics,videos,and race reports the better

lets help nitro onroad grow again, i truly beleive Ray's track is setting the standard we should all learn from



!!!!!!!!SUBSCRIBE TO THIS THREAD LETS HELP OUR HOBBY!!!!!!!!
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I KNOW SOMEBODY RACED Nitro VTA THIS PAST WEEKEND?
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Old 06-09-2009, 07:58 PM   #30
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Rays spec on the rubber tires to even the race out is very even you can run a tz 5 port out law against a stock out of the box hpi rtr and the rtr hpi and theTZ kyo rrr stayed sided by sided with the vintage tires on the streight away, i couldnt beleave it until i race my self he got it down pat . dont let ray fool you he can run with the best of them, PS i was the guy with the yellow car that was flying all over the place realy it was my second race i had with ray, i had a blast thanks and good luk with racing VTA.
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