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Old 03-23-2007, 04:49 PM   #1201
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Old 03-26-2007, 05:54 AM   #1202
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hey guys
where do you measure your rear droop from?
ont he front i measure from the little plastic notch that pokes out from under the arm but theres no notch on the rear arms.
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Old 03-26-2007, 06:02 AM   #1203
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We always measure from the lowest part of the upright, the rounded bottom that contains the ball part of the pillow ball.
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Old 03-26-2007, 06:38 AM   #1204
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aaron - what do you think of running the short wheelbase?
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Old 03-26-2007, 07:38 PM   #1205
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I always run the car short up front. And most of the time short in the rear, like a Mugen car. After alot of dremeling you can make the car just as short as the MRX-4 (-3mm).

Running the rear short too really works when you need every bit of steering on low bite tracks. On moderate bite tracks, I don't think it is really necessary, but it doesn't seem to hurt the car. On ultra high bite VHT etc... long would probably be the way to go, the short wheel base is harder to drive around sweeping turn and carousels.

I think it also depends on what kind of feel you like, Josh, Shimo and Adrien always run the front short. Ralphy, Kimbrough and Joel usually run their car long.
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Old 03-27-2007, 01:38 AM   #1206
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We always measure from the lowest part of the upright, the rounded bottom that contains the ball part of the pillow ball.
ohh is this the same for the front aswell?
i think the front has the notch but the rear doesn't.
with my tourer i always measure from the little notch ( which i think is there so that the L/R arms are interchangeable so you can mount the shock)

what do you think about adding spacers under the front upper arm mounts?
do you usually run with alteast one spacer or none?
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Old 03-27-2007, 02:57 AM   #1207
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Twiggy the spacer i had in the front top arm holders makes it the same as the std plastic arm holders. If i rember right its t1 spacer thats 1mm. Regards Jeremy.
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Running the rear short too really works when you need every bit of steering on low bite tracks. On moderate bite tracks, I don't think it is really necessary, but it doesn't seem to hurt the car. On ultra high bite VHT etc... long would probably be the way to go, the short wheel base is harder to drive around sweeping turn and carousels.

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I have two complete cars: one long and one short at the front. The only track I use the short car at is Gulf Coast in Houston, a very tight compact track with a lot of paper clip turns. For me the short car works better on that type of track. Aaron is correct though, short car on fast sweeping turns gets to be a handfull in a hurry......I use long just about every where else (RCRCNT, Cinncy, ect).
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Old 03-27-2007, 09:43 AM   #1209
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aaron - thanks for the advice.
p2gee - I run on a parking lot track that changes every week and is generally more of a sedan track (decent amount of tight turns) than a 1/8 style track.

Thanks for the advice from both of you. I'm going to try it this weekend (provided this rain we're getting goes away), if I don't like it I'll go back to the long setup.
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I never raise the front upper a-arm, we usually go lower, Delta and Empire both make lowered a-arm mounts, this increases the amount of camber gain and effects the roll center. The only time I went higher was when I ran on ultra low bite tracks to get the car to push, to stop it from spinning out. To get rid of steering I usally work with the front bar and castor before I start raising the front upper a-arm. I think the car is the best when I can run the front bar at 45 degrees and still have enough steering to get through the corner.
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Old 03-27-2007, 10:58 PM   #1211
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Great info Aaron. I will try your tips at my next race day.

Btw, why do Twiggy & Sirio have the same paint scheme?
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I need to know what holders the 05 Worlds kit uses. I know that the regular 05 kit uses the 7-2 rear lower suspension holders but does the worlds kit still use them or is what the 7-3.5 holders are for? I originally thought that the 3.5 holders were going to be for the 2007 update.
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I need to know what holders the 05 Worlds kit uses. I know that the regular 05 kit uses the 7-2 rear lower suspension holders but does the worlds kit still use them or is what the 7-3.5 holders are for? I originally thought that the 3.5 holders were going to be for the 2007 update.

03/05 kits use KYO FM533-2 Rear Susp Holder (7MM/2)
05WC Kits use KYO FM533-35 Rear Susp Holder (7MM/3.5) (Black)

07 will use the KYO FM533-35 Rear Susp Holder (7MM/3.5) (Black)
with new shorter upper A-arm and Longer lower A-Arms

To confuse things a little Delta makes the DL 55213 Rear susp holder, High pos (2)

IMO the best thing to have is the (7MM/2) and the Delta 55213 in the pit box.
When Kyosho get's the 07 up grade kits out I will give a look at the 3.5's again but IMO they leave too much exposed pivot bal stud in the Rear A-Arm.
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03/05 kits use KYO FM533-2 Rear Susp Holder (7MM/2)
05WC Kits use KYO FM533-35 Rear Susp Holder (7MM/3.5) (Black)

07 will use the KYO FM533-35 Rear Susp Holder (7MM/3.5) (Black)
with new shorter upper A-arm and Longer lower A-Arms

To confuse things a little Delta makes the DL 55213 Rear susp holder, High pos (2)

IMO the best thing to have is the (7MM/2) and the Delta 55213 in the pit box.
When Kyosho get's the 07 up grade kits out I will give a look at the 3.5's again but IMO they leave too much exposed pivot bal stud in the Rear A-Arm.
Now I thought that the 2007 Update is going to have longer lower rear arms so that the pivot ball studs are not as exposed?
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Now I thought that the 2007 Update is going to have longer lower rear arms so that the pivot ball studs are not as exposed?
Yes, the 07 model will come with the longer rear arms.
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