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Old 07-05-2004, 02:41 AM   #13531
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Hi Guys,

Is the Loletta from Serpent the same which some of you guys have been using for a while?

How does it compare to other lola shells?

Cheers, Mark.
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Old 07-05-2004, 02:49 AM   #13532
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Hi Guys,

Is the Loletta from Serpent the same which some of you guys have been using for a while?

How does it compare to other lola shells?

Cheers, Mark.
Mark, I found that it's very sensitive to steering input. More sensitive than the normal Lola at moderate to high speed.

Funny that the version on mytsn does not show a rear wing that is suppose to come with it. If the body comes from Frewer, then they should have it. The ones that comes from Frewer have steel screws. Serpent's one is plastic.

The good thing about the Loletta is that on the 710, the front part is high enough for you to use the stock front shock tower and you do not need to buy the optional front Lola shock tower or cut holes to let the stock shock tower protrude out of the shell.
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Mark, I found that it's very sensitive to steering input. More sensitive than the normal Lola at moderate to high speed.
thanks, D. I wouldn't normally bother with a Lola shell, but in Oct at Uncle Sow's track, I need an "outlaw" shell.
So you would recommend a "normal" lola shell instead?

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thanks, D. I wouldn't normally bother with a Lola shell, but in Oct at Uncle Sow's track, I need an "outlaw" shell.
So you would recommend a "normal" lola shell instead?
For me, I like how the Loletta shell handles. If it's a smallish track, I would like the car to be responsive and handling is more precise. The Loletta gives a lot of steering.

But if you want to make the car more stable, just extend the wing for more downforce.

Or better still, run a TC shell like Mazda 6 and kick Uncle Sow's outlaw ass.
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Or better still, run a TC shell like Mazda 6 and kick Uncle Sow's outlaw ass.
Yeah, but he's going to have an engine advantage - or is my JP FX 3-port faster than his 5-port
I can live with giving the old man one advantage, but two
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Yeah, but he's going to have an engine advantage - or is my JP FX 3-port faster than his 5-port
I can live with giving the old man one advantage, but two
Don't worry. If it's a really high speed track, then the 3 port will probably lack top end the 5 port will have. On a short track, both are about equal.

But then again yours is no ordinary 3 port engine. And your JP hitting 90 kph is even more scary testament. I think the disadvantage will be on Uncle Sow. But you never know what the old man has up his sleeves come October...

Set your clutch right and the JP will just pull the car forward !
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Don't worry. If it's a really high speed track, then the 3 port will probably lack top end the 5 port will have. On a short track, both are about equal.

But then again yours is no ordinary 3 port engine. And your JP hitting 90 kph is even more scary testament. I think the disadvantage will be on Uncle Sow. But you never know what the old man has up his sleeves come October...

Set your clutch right and the JP will just pull the car forward !
The track is said to be the shortest in the UK (what I've heard), so it sounds like a loletta and no problems with the 3-port

I'm sure the old wizard will be conjuring up something before October

I'm going to have to practice running clockwise, too! Could be a bit risky with the lawnmowers running in the other direction
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Set your clutch right and the JP will just pull the car forward !
The clutch seems nicely set up, even though I've not touched it since putting it together with the yellow shoe - seems to leap off the starting grid ok.
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The track is said to be the shortest in the UK (what I've heard), so it sounds like a loletta and no problems with the 3-port
Shortest track in UK? Oh my. You may want to try the shortest gearing possible for the 2nd gear. Like 21/57. Preparing to run with a front diff or a solid front axle would be a boon too as you can brake harder. Hope Uncle Sow does not see this one.

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I'm sure the old wizard will be conjuring up something before October
A KHM maybe?

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I'm going to have to practice running clockwise, too!
The Brits are correct !
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Shortest track in UK? Oh my. You may want to try the shortest gearing possible for the 2nd gear. Like 21/57. Preparing to run with a front diff or a solid front axle would be a boon too as you can brake harder. Hope Uncle Sow does not see this one.
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A KHM maybe?
and probably the 3.5cc version - I'm sure he'll try to shoe horn it in there

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Which would imply that I'm correct
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Cool. Is that from the makers of the Mirage? Have you taken it for a spin? Any difference in handling between the stock and the current radio plate?
Actually it was the Mirage.

After they cancelled the worlds I rebuilt it as a 710 with some changes to what I had put into the Mirage.

I probably should have run it as a standard 710 to tell the difference but it's good to have something different.
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thanks, D. I wouldn't normally bother with a Lola shell, but in Oct at Uncle Sow's track, I need an "outlaw" shell.
So you would recommend a "normal" lola shell instead?

Cheers, Mark.
Mark,

If you plan to use the 705 then use a "normal" lola, if its the 710 then bring a Loletta. Otherwise you'll get eaten alive at the sweeper at the end of the straight as well as the inner sweeper.
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Or better still, run a TC shell like Mazda 6 and kick Uncle Sow's outlaw ass.
Don't tell Mark to do it ... YOU come over and join us man! Then you can SHOW Mark how to kick my ass.
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Yeah, but he's going to have an engine advantage - or is my JP FX 3-port faster than his 5-port
I can live with giving the old man one advantage, but two
Well, if you donate your second JP-FX to me I'll promise to move aside when you get near me.
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The track is said to be the shortest in the UK (what I've heard), so it sounds like a loletta and no problems with the 3-port

I'm sure the old wizard will be conjuring up something before October

I'm going to have to practice running clockwise, too! Could be a bit risky with the lawnmowers running in the other direction
Yup, its one of the smallest. Maybe the smallest nitro track is my indoor club. I'm thinking hard of new stuff to conjure up but even then the secrets will be on 3hobby.com. At this age there's no point keeping those things secrets any more ... the old hands are getting shakier by the day!

Don't worry about the clockwise thing ... although not confirmed yet but it sounds like they're going to start running anti-clockwise at some point.
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