R/C Tech Forums

Go Back   R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Nitro On-Road

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 09-27-2011, 12:41 AM   #991
Tech Addict
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 740
Trader Rating: 12 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rpoage View Post
http://ashfordhobby.com MTX5 1/10 Nitro Touring Car

In stock. My hat is off to Mugen USA for suppling all the parts required to race this car on our first stock order.
RRP $999.99USD
CDS70 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-27-2011, 02:50 AM   #992
Tech Regular
 
nikoskar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Greece
Posts: 496
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CDS70 View Post
RRP $999.99USD
$589.99
__________________
www.rc-world.gr
nikoskar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-27-2011, 02:53 AM   #993
Tech Champion
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: www.moorebankraceway.com
Posts: 5,119
Trader Rating: 10 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jaykay View Post
With the 26 pulley you donīt drive any split on the tires. Just used when you drive rubber tires, like in rain.

I like to drive always softer tires in the front than in the rear. First you have more steering and you tire wear is much better.
In qualifying you can use for example 35 front and 37 rear and for the finals 37 front and 40 rear. On high grip conditions or when itīs very warm, you can go higher with the shore.

The 600cst oil is too thick. But I think that is just the starting oil. So that the car is easy to drive. Donīt forget, not everybody who buys a MTX-5 has experience with that class.
I would start with the standard pistons and use 400 or 450 oil and also use the standard springs.
I would also change the ackerman position and would push it to the most forward position.

The next thing is to check your track width. I prefer to drive the front a little bit less than the rear. For example 197 or 198 in the front and 199 in the rear.

What a lot of people forget to check, is the downstop. In most cases you can use 4 in the rear and 1 in the front. But sometimes itīs important to play with it. The effect in my opinion is great when you change for example to 5 in the rear and 0 in the front, or only 0 in the front and 4 and the rear.
yep i did all of that, except for the shock oil. I think i have a spare set of shocks, whcih i will build with 450wt or 500wt.

i'm hoping to get some spare diffs in time for a big race...hopefully i can get these
TomB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-27-2011, 07:34 AM   #994
Tech Regular
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Brooklyn,new York
Posts: 466
Default MTX5

Wow seen the car at the nats for its debut and was very impressed with barry and the car . It must be good , we got 10 in stock monday and 5 already sold .Thankyou mugen for making the car sellable for 559.99 much lower than other brands ! Touring car will be larger class than 1/8th scale next year .
__________________
RICHARD SIRIANO
BROOKLYNHOBBIES.COM

MUGEN USA
2011 /2012 REGIONAL 1 1/8TH SCALE ONROAD CHAMPION
TEAM BROOKLYN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-27-2011, 11:03 PM   #995
Tech Fanatic
 
Seisick's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 845
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bishop View Post
I actually thought about that on the day, so something else I may try, but I may wait till I can build a couple of spare diffs to try that, really you would kind of expect the car to turn in even with a spool though, but I guess if it's now been built specifically with a front diff in mind.



To be fair, with the delays you got getting the kit, the spares caught up with the kits by the time they came in, by the looks of it.
A friend of mine whom I sold one x5 kit told me that the diff gears of the x5 are similar to nt11s! So I guess that for those that don't want to do diff manteinance often there's an option
__________________
HobbymaniA
GoT MuGeN?
Seisick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2011, 12:20 AM   #996
Tech Elite
 
Bishop's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 2,223
Trader Rating: 5 (100%+)
Default

A few people I have talked to seem to think the diff gears won't last, I'm not convinced of that just yet, plastics being used right now are very hard, but I would think if they start looking fragile Mugen may release some steel gears, I'm not pointy end of engines anyway, so for me they may last a lot longer.


I was cleaning the 5 today, it seems to fuel up cleanly (no blow/vibrating up fuel during a fuel stop according to my pit man), and for some reason a lot of the car stays quite free of grime build up, with you able to get at a lot of the car with compressed air during a post race blow down.

Home cleaning procedure seems a lot like my old Team Magic G4JS, remove throttle linkage screw, pull clips and remove fuel tank, from there just work it with a brush, engines comes out easy so through there as well, only hard spot is around steering in the front, tight at the front, but a hell of a lot easier and quicker than cleaning down a MTX4.

Big selling point for me was always easier to work on, easier to maintain and clean, 5 seems to have all that, going to pull the diffs tonight to tighten the screws, while mine did leak a little, what has leaked seems to have all stayed stuck to the diffs, and not flung around anywhere else...
__________________
QRCCRA
www.qrccra.org.au
www.facebook.com/englandparkraceway
www.myrcm.ch/main?pLa=en&hId[1]=org&dId[O]=4331
Bishop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2011, 01:01 AM   #997
Tech Elite
 
Chickentrader's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Landsborough, Queensland, Australia.
Posts: 2,142
Trader Rating: 13 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Seisick View Post
A friend of mine whom I sold one x5 kit told me that the diff gears of the x5 are similar to nt11s! So I guess that for those that don't want to do diff manteinance often there's an option
NT1 use aluminum diff gears, but Shepherd V10 diff gears that are made of steel also fits NT1 and Capricorn diffs. So there's another option for those that want steel diff gears. Capricorn LAB01 has carbon gears that would also fit in that case.

Kindest regards,
Lars.
__________________
Support your local RC stores - they support our sport!
Social media – The empowerment of the small individual to enforce democratic process at the expense of dishonesty.
Chickentrader is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2011, 01:36 AM   #998
Tech Elite
 
rx7ttlm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 2,521
Trader Rating: 30 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chickentrader View Post
NT1 use aluminum diff gears, but Shepherd V10 diff gears that are made of steel also fits NT1 and Capricorn diffs. So there's another option for those that want steel diff gears. Capricorn LAB01 has carbon gears that would also fit in that case.

Kindest regards,
Lars.
Incorrect, the diff gears in the NT1 are steel.
__________________
|Team Xray | RC America |MAX Engines | Hudy |Jaco | KO PROPO |"From Slovakia with Love" T3 | Team Timezone |

Timezone Raceway & Hobbies - http://www.timezonehobbies.com
rx7ttlm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2011, 03:55 AM   #999
Tech Adept
 
NikoRacing's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Italy
Posts: 139
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bishop View Post
A few people I have talked to seem to think the diff gears won't last, I'm not convinced of that just yet, plastics being used right now are very hard, but I would think if they start looking fragile Mugen may release some steel gears, I'm not pointy end of engines anyway, so for me they may last a lot longer.


I was cleaning the 5 today, it seems to fuel up cleanly (no blow/vibrating up fuel during a fuel stop according to my pit man), and for some reason a lot of the car stays quite free of grime build up, with you able to get at a lot of the car with compressed air during a post race blow down.

Home cleaning procedure seems a lot like my old Team Magic G4JS, remove throttle linkage screw, pull clips and remove fuel tank, from there just work it with a brush, engines comes out easy so through there as well, only hard spot is around steering in the front, tight at the front, but a hell of a lot easier and quicker than cleaning down a MTX4.

Big selling point for me was always easier to work on, easier to maintain and clean, 5 seems to have all that, going to pull the diffs tonight to tighten the screws, while mine did leak a little, what has leaked seems to have all stayed stuck to the diffs, and not flung around anywhere else...

I was in Melzo (home track of Francesco Tironi) and in the last race, a week ago, he broke the rear diff.
I think is a matter of material the gears are made. Maybe the plastic is not the best for that work. I drive a NT1 and using Capricorn light gears (and alu pins also) and I made 5 or 6 races on it with tests and so with no problem.
I have to say that Melzo Track is a hard track for differential since it has 4 hairpins in wich you have to brake a lot and then when you turn the internal rear wheel loose the contact with the ground and it rounds discharging the power (and this is not the best for diffs).

I will keep you informed if Francesco will come up with updates or so
__________________
NICOLA PEZZOTTI - italian F1 cat. driver - Serpent 747 - HIPEX exhaust system - HOTRACE tyres - SANWA M11X
NikoRacing is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2011, 04:25 AM   #1000
Tech Adept
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 184
Default

733 DLS arm on MTX 5

Ghett0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2011, 04:33 AM   #1001
Tech Elite
 
Bishop's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 2,223
Trader Rating: 5 (100%+)
Default

Ok, I just came up with something strange while cleaning my 5, if I hold/lock off the steering servo, you can still move the steering a little, possibly more than it should with a little more ease than it should move around center.

So I pulled out the servo saver (very easy to do I must admit), and sure enough there is a bit of play in there before it hits the cams to restrict movement, during use a little fuel/oil has gotten in there making it maybe a little slicker than when first built.

But I have to ask if it's normal?, with the car in one piece I suggest just lock the top of the saver post with your fingers, and try moving your steering wheels side to side, maybe I'm just being new kit paranoid?.
__________________
QRCCRA
www.qrccra.org.au
www.facebook.com/englandparkraceway
www.myrcm.ch/main?pLa=en&hId[1]=org&dId[O]=4331
Bishop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2011, 05:02 AM   #1002
Tech Elite
 
Bishop's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 2,223
Trader Rating: 5 (100%+)
Default

Ok, found and fixed the issue I just discovered, so here is another quick build tip, pull apart your servo saver, take the cup side of the cam, and file/sand down the cup a little bit, test fit and after removing no more than a mm or so, the cams can now fully touch/seat properly, and no more play.

Plastic mold glitch?, the cup sits just a shade tall, so the oposing cams don't fully seat/touch, result is a few mm of steering play in the servo saver, file down that cup a mm or so and it's slop/play free.

So the question I have to ask is, was it effecting my turn in?.



Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghett0 View Post
733 DLS arm on MTX 5
I was giving it a month before someone tried to brace it themselves, you beat the bet I had with myself.
__________________
QRCCRA
www.qrccra.org.au
www.facebook.com/englandparkraceway
www.myrcm.ch/main?pLa=en&hId[1]=org&dId[O]=4331

Last edited by Bishop; 09-28-2011 at 05:16 AM.
Bishop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2011, 05:10 AM   #1003
Tech Adept
 
NikoRacing's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Italy
Posts: 139
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghett0 View Post
733 DLS arm on MTX 5
Tironi made a stiffener arm on the left side (nearer to the chassis) with a camber link or something similar... I forgot to take a photo
__________________
NICOLA PEZZOTTI - italian F1 cat. driver - Serpent 747 - HIPEX exhaust system - HOTRACE tyres - SANWA M11X
NikoRacing is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2011, 08:51 AM   #1004
Tech Elite
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Beneath a rock down by the river. Don't have money for van
Posts: 3,179
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Default

Well Bishop,that sounds like the culprit.Know that I think about your issue remember having a similar issue when raced a MP7.5,changed the steering servo and the servo saver was set to be loose,it was like I had a S3003 in there
Keep us posted k?
__________________
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) https://www.facebook.com/becomeasetupguru/
30Tooth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2011, 08:58 AM   #1005
Tech Fanatic
 
Seisick's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 845
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghett0 View Post
733 DLS arm on MTX 5

what is the total length for the arm? as i cant find any info for the dls arm
__________________
HobbymaniA
GoT MuGeN?
Seisick is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Mugen MTX-3 university_dave Nitro On-Road 17237 12-30-2012 01:16 PM
Mugen MTX-4 Grasshopperr Nitro On-Road 9087 08-30-2011 07:15 PM
Singapore National Series, 2009 Round 2 bullygod Singapore R/C Racers 21 06-27-2009 07:00 AM
Inter-State Racing Competetion Mie3R Malaysian R/C Racers 510 08-12-2008 10:41 PM
INTI College 1/10 Gas Touring (Sarawak,Kuching) LAKIA Malaysian R/C Racers 41 10-18-2007 06:46 PM
TQ With Serpent 720 on 23 & 24 December 2006 in Miri weechor Malaysian R/C Racers 119 02-01-2007 07:04 AM
LRP Nitro Masters 2006 – Malaysia HPC II Malaysian R/C Racers 435 06-28-2006 09:03 AM



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -7. It is currently 07:27 AM.


We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.
Powered By: vBulletin v3.9.2.1
Privacy Policy | Terms of Use | Advertise Content © 2001-2011 RCTech.net