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Old 11-04-2008, 05:47 AM   #31
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I have no problem with the fatcats making millions. What I have a problem with is with making millions by going to Mexico for cheap labor at the expense of an American Job. And tring to sell the same product back in the US. "ie Hershey's chocolate" Sorry off subject
Don't worry, work will come back to the US
With the way the dollar is going, the US will also be a "cheap labor" land....
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...How many American go buy Xray, Novarossi? Properly less them 0.001%?
Quite a few actually, I think US is the single largest market for both companies (and other rc companies as well). I don't think company like xray would produce US version of their electric car if they only had a 0.001% of market share.
ioxqq, reading some of your posts you seem like a completely misinformed individual. Try to get your facts straight before you post something.

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X brand stuff have long been made in china / hong kong...
If you're referring to Xray, they are made in slovakia. This was already discussed in another thread.
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Don't worry, work will come back to the US
With the way the dollar is going, the US will also be a "cheap labor" land....
Compared to Europe, the US have always been a cheap labour country.

Regarding the Dollar, I suppose you are missing something here. The Dollar has gone up 20% in the last few weeks.
And if our American friends won"t totally screw up the elections tonight (voting for McCain) than the Dollar and with it the US economy should become much stronger really quickly.

It's all about those crazy gambler in the stock exchanges not about real market values.

If Obama goes to the White House the rest of the world will really sigh in relief and the trust in this country will come back.

If they vote Republican again, than the world will know that they understood nothing and things are going to get much worse.....

Now you all can grillme for that,if you got the nerv.....
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Compared to Europe, the US have always been a cheap labour country.

Regarding the Dollar, I suppose you are missing something here. The Dollar has gone up 20% in the last few weeks.
And if our American friends won"t totally screw up the elections tonight (voting for McCain) than the Dollar and with it the US economy should become much stronger really quickly.

It's all about those crazy gambler in the stock exchanges not about real market values.

If Obama goes to the White House the rest of the world will really sigh in relief and the trust in this country will come back.

If they vote Republican again, than the world will know that they understood nothing and things are going to get much worse.....

Now you all can grillme for that,if you got the nerv.....
I guess I have the "Nerve" You seriously do not think we "Americans" would take political advice from Germany do you? We are suppose to be stupid Americans , but we are not that stupid. With your countries political past you should not even be allowed behind a key board at all.
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Old 11-04-2008, 06:23 AM   #35
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I guess I have the "Nerve" You seriously do not think we "Americans" would take political advice from Germany do you? We are suppose to be stupid Americans , but we are not that stupid. With your countries political past you should not even be allowed behind a key board at all.
You just made my point, thank you!
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You just made my point, thank you!
I guess your point is that you have no clue? Why do you always post bashing Americans? Not "all" Americans want to live in a Socialist country and your opinions mean nothing to me.
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I guess your point is that you have no clue? Why do you always post bashing Americans? Not "all" Americans want to live in a Socialist country and your opinions mean nothing to me.
He's still mad about all the explosives we dumped on his homeland.

If you think the economy is bad now, wait until Obama turns us into the USRA. United Socialist Republic of America.
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Wingracer.........Bush has already turned this country into the United Socialist Republic 4 more years of Bush and we will be a third world nation.
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Funny thing about your country is, how thinly spread the wealth is and how many really poor suckers are the first to raise the flag when the rich people decide to go to war......

You sir have no idea what you are talking about. We have, on average, 50% more GDP / capita than your sorry excuse of a country.

I'm sorry if our country has a set of balls still and actually don't run away from our fights OR the worlds fights. You should count your blessings that the USA is here to protect your countries flaming libral ways. If Russia or Iran decided to attack you, who do you think would be the first person your country would call? I know it would be the "really poor suckers" of the USA..

We are the light of the free world and you euro's just cant stand it. Go take a flyin leap..

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Bush has made some poor moves but if you think we are socialist now, wait until Obama gets through with us. We will all be working for the State.

Also, in case you haven't noticed, we can't have 4 more years of Bush. He's out. If you think McCain is the same then you know nothing about McCain.

Finally, this is not the place for this discussion anyway. Head to the chat lounge for hot and heavy political debate.
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Wingracer.........Bush has already turned this country into the United Socialist Republic 4 more years of Bush and we will be a third world nation.
Socialist???? do you even know what this word means? Obviously not. You should keep you thoughts to yourself, they do not serve you well at all.
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First of all guys, this is not a thread to talk about politics.

Second, if you think by Serpent being produced in China will result in having a lower quality, think again. Labor cost is not proportional to quality. I believe that Serpent is not owned by China they are still owned by the same people. They just moved their facilities of manufacturing to China in order to lower prices and be competitive with the rest of the brands. This argument has been fought already in three different threads.

Those of you that DO drive Serpent will also agree that the parts durability and quality have increased in the last months.
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I find it very funny how ppl think........

(1) Serpent owns by CHINESE......no, SERPENT is always SERPENT, when they are the PIONEER (yes, they are) on 1/8th ON ROAD and 1/10th ON ROAD as well as 1/8th OFF ROAD (go look at the beginning works of SERPENT)...they are the PIONEER of how the RC cars look like right now...for example, Centax, Rear floating mount, 3 belts drive train......etc.

(2) When ppl complaining about $500 for a 1/8th ON ROAD kit...look at other brand's 1/10th electric touring....I don't have to name names, but you can find it above $500 or even $550...they complaint about $500 is too much, but then complaint about those $350 kit are garbage...TOYOTA will never beat FERRARI, simple logic.

(3) Being Chinese, I can tell you this....yes, they DID make crap, alot of time...but TIME can tell, if you want to support SERPENT (like I am)...buy their stuff and support the brand. From what I see...I don't see their stuff any WORST then before. However, their price still be around the market LEVEL. Remember....ppl need to make profit to do business, Serpent is not own by some Government Department that does not need to make profit. In order for them to make profit, they have to lower their cost of making their products.

I think topic like this is really annoying...I only look at SERPENT as SERPENT. Yes, I know the business behind Serpent is owned by HK base model company that mainly do REAL ESTATE and their side job is OEM MODEL parts and their little potato business is also owns SERPENT (just for you guys to know what is their BREAD AND BUTTER).......I only care about what SERPENT will do on their 1/8th on road and off road...their 1/10th TC, and their PIONEER development that only SERPENT is still doing. Sometime, those design does not work well or race competable, but at least they think and they tried..........and the rest just FOLLOW and COPY or reverse engineering.

Give Serpent some time.......they will be back. When others throwing their money for some top drivers to win many races....Serpent spending their money on their products and hope the end user like me enjoy the latest technology of Serpent RC.

Last....I don't know it is a far sighted or short sighted business plan, item made in CHINA is way less then item made in US or Europe...if the current Serpent 960 is $499 and made in China.....guess how much will that be if the S960 is made in US or made in Europe or any other place of the world...? And then...I am sure there are topic like.."$799 for Serpent 730 and $999 for Serpent 970....WTF?"

Also, AMERICAN ARE NOT CHEAP..........infact, they start learning how to SHOP AROUND and BARGAIN. I buy from Wal-Mart alot, but you just have to see what you buy there. You don't buy $1000 LCD monitor there and expect to compete with Pioneer top of the line model......you go Wal-mart to buy kitchen items, toilet paper, some low cost item....they can be name brand item as well, but if the same item selling at some fancy store for 5% more.......will you still want to pay the extra 5% and tell ppl you are still a smart customer...? It just saying you don't care about your hard earning money and being stupid....

Wait and see....observe and decide what you want to do....

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Old 11-04-2008, 08:53 AM   #45
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I think u guys should get off politics. RC should b the topic! The WORLD is in bad shape.
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