R/C Tech Forums

Go Back   R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Nitro On-Road

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 12-24-2008, 08:22 AM   #106
afm
Tech Master
 
afm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: lima-peru
Posts: 1,807
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chiefy 707 View Post
So other than Blee, anyone else here actually have a +Evo?
I have one, allready track tested and pleased with it.....lots of steering, and finally we have all the roll center tuning possibilities now iŽll start fooling around with settings to see and feel changes....

AFM
afm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-2008, 11:36 AM   #107
Tech Regular
 
Nitro-Racer*'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Cyprus
Posts: 398
Default

so is the rear wc edition upgrade kit worth its money??
__________________
Xray Nt1-Novarossi 3sct-KoPropo-GRP-Altis 2.3-RB Fuels
Xray 808 09-RB Killer 9-Hitec-KoPropo-RB Fuels
Nitro-Racer* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-2008, 01:10 PM   #108
Tech Regular
 
Chiefy 707's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Vallejo, CA
Posts: 485
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by afm View Post
I have one, allready track tested and pleased with it.....lots of steering, and finally we have all the roll center tuning possibilities now iŽll start fooling around with settings to see and feel changes....

AFM
Awesome! Just curious AFM, are you still using the front spool? How are the tracks over there in Peru anyway? The two local tracks I race at are really technical and not very flowing like the European tracks I see on Youtube. Everyone I show my car to is always surprised to see it has a spool. And nobody I know even runs a spool.

I really really need to take my car out on the track but the weather's not letting me.
__________________
"It looks like a [insert car here]. It's just another [insert car here] clone!"
"Why did [insert manufacturer here] go with such a radical design? [insert manufacturer here] needs to stick with what works!" Shhhh, please.

HB/LRP/KO Propo/Protek/Associated/Tekno
Chiefy 707 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-2008, 03:31 PM   #109
Tech Elite
 
British Menace's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Davenport, IA
Posts: 2,338
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chiefy 707 View Post
Awesome! Just curious AFM, are you still using the front spool? How are the tracks over there in Peru anyway? The two local tracks I race at are really technical and not very flowing like the European tracks I see on Youtube. Everyone I show my car to is always surprised to see it has a spool. And nobody I know even runs a spool.

I really really need to take my car out on the track but the weather's not letting me.
Hi Chiefy,
Don't worry too much about the spool. It really does help to drive the car fast!
The one thing i would say about using a diff' is that it does make the car easier to drive fast. Especially if your going to be hitting any long finals!?

Regards,
British Menace
__________________
So enjoying building cars I sometimes forget to save some "man-time" to race them!?
British Menace is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-2008, 03:40 PM   #110
Tech Master
 
freestyles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Sydney
Posts: 1,118
Trader Rating: 14 (100%+)
Default

That will be the only way you will know if a spool is any good for the track. I would of thought that if it's a tight,technical track then a spool would be beneficial as it offers good hard braking into a corner and pulls hard out of it but the only downfall could be that you might suffer from a little bit of understeer as a spool creates a bit of push.
__________________
This public service announcement was brought to you by the letter "B" and the number "9". Thanks for watching.
freestyles is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-2008, 06:48 PM   #111
Tech Addict
 
NitroWD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 622
Trader Rating: 5 (100%+)
Default

the car can be setup to run the spool for any track, no worries.

* Merry Christmas to all ! *
__________________
* Earth's fate depends on what we do TODAY... *
+ Earth got all the time in the world; but we DON'T... +
NitroWD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-25-2008, 03:53 PM   #112
afm
Tech Master
 
afm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: lima-peru
Posts: 1,807
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chiefy 707 View Post
Awesome! Just curious AFM, are you still using the front spool? How are the tracks over there in Peru anyway? The two local tracks I race at are really technical and not very flowing like the European tracks I see on Youtube. Everyone I show my car to is always surprised to see it has a spool. And nobody I know even runs a spool.

I really really need to take my car out on the track but the weather's not letting me.
Yes, over the years IŽve been using front spool in all my cars depending on track traction and/or layout.
Less traction favors spool, but in any case driving style is very important to really benefit from it...late braking and throttle control around corner to minimize push, but the acceleration you have with a spool in all cases you`ll never have with a diff.
I use diff on very narrow technical tracks with fast chicanes which needs for very sensitive steering, and yes I agree with B Menace on long finals you tend to make better constant laps, because it is less stressing on your driving...kind of hard to explain...

In Lima Peru we had a very large flowing track, with lots of layout change possibilities, which unfortunately we lost, due to land owners new development. Right now we are in the process of remodeling and old karting rental track, for R/C use...it is small but with a very flowing desing. It is a 17sec. lap track.

AFM
afm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-25-2008, 04:12 PM   #113
Tech Regular
 
Chiefy 707's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Vallejo, CA
Posts: 485
Default

I have the gear diff already. I'm on a budget so although I wish I could have several diffs preassembled with differing oil weights I'll probably stick to one for now with a jack of all trades weight, any suggestions?
There are two tracks that I'll be doing most of my racing on:

VRC

VRC is my home track and only 5 minutes away. The layout is different now and for a small track is very fun.

Speedworld

Speedworld is an awesome track that has hosted some pretty big races including this years Reedy Invitational. The layout here too has since changed from the video.
__________________
"It looks like a [insert car here]. It's just another [insert car here] clone!"
"Why did [insert manufacturer here] go with such a radical design? [insert manufacturer here] needs to stick with what works!" Shhhh, please.

HB/LRP/KO Propo/Protek/Associated/Tekno
Chiefy 707 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-25-2008, 06:46 PM   #114
Suspended
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Reno, NV
Posts: 65
Default

Chiefy 707; Talk to the owner at SpeedWorld, Billy. He has a lot more knowledge than everyone might think and a very helpful guy. If you don’t go in the shop he announces the races at the track.
I know he likes the TM cars and would be glad to help you if needed.
nitroballer9 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2008, 08:16 AM   #115
Tech Regular
 
Chiefy 707's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Vallejo, CA
Posts: 485
Default

LOL, funny you mention that. Me and my buddy were supposed to race there for the 2nd half of the Toys 4 Tots race on sunday but it rained. But since we made the drive we just hung out in the shop with Billy and man are you right, Billy is one knowledgeable dood who experienced R/C at so many different levels it's not funny. Really cool dood.
I was planning on going there today but it turns out I have to work (which is where I'm at right now). Billy offered to help me get my car tuned and setup too. Oh well, sunday it is... if it doesn't rain!
__________________
"It looks like a [insert car here]. It's just another [insert car here] clone!"
"Why did [insert manufacturer here] go with such a radical design? [insert manufacturer here] needs to stick with what works!" Shhhh, please.

HB/LRP/KO Propo/Protek/Associated/Tekno
Chiefy 707 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2008, 02:16 PM   #116
Tech Apprentice
 
D Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: vallejo, CA
Posts: 98
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Default

i would start with the spool first, you should have enough time to swap it over to diff for the second qualifying i would go with 100k that's what i was running there last race and 30k , here is jay's basic set up

600 shock oil, sway bars flat,
front
198mm
1 toe out
1 camber
4 ride height
2 droop
3mm caster
harder stock spring
shock position top 2nd to lowest lower arm outer hole same as rear

rear
200 mm
3 toe in (start w/ 2 imo)
3 camber look at your rear tires first qualifying if it cones on inside give less camber if cones outside give more camber
5 ride
6 rear droop
softer stock spring

beng and lloyd ended up disconnecting their rear swaybar
__________________
Team VRC

Last edited by D Man; 12-26-2008 at 02:50 PM.
D Man is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2008, 07:24 PM   #117
Tech Addict
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 517
Default

Want to know if the rear lower flying arm fit into G4S?
ioxqq is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2008, 09:07 PM   #118
Tech Apprentice
 
D Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: vallejo, CA
Posts: 98
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ioxqq View Post
Want to know if the rear lower flying arm fit into G4S?
just the arms i don't know haven't tried it but by the looks of it i think you can you will need the arms,hinge pins, new back bracket and spacer and clips set and you won't be able to use the sway bar...if you want to convert the whole rear to the g4+ not the evo... yes you can. i did you will need a lot of parts.. flying wing arms, new bulk heads,new swaybars,spacer clips,brake bracket, the new back bracket, and hinge pins
__________________
Team VRC

Last edited by D Man; 12-26-2008 at 09:59 PM.
D Man is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2008, 09:07 PM   #119
Tech Regular
 
revo523's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: NOLA!
Posts: 466
Trader Rating: 8 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ioxqq View Post
Want to know if the rear lower flying arm fit into G4S?
I think you would have to use the new style bulkheads.
__________________
Xray T2 009 EU Tekin RS PRO Novak 13.5 SMC 5200
Team Magic G4JS O.S.12 skyline 12plus
Spektrum DX3S

What came first the chicken or the egg?
revo523 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-27-2008, 12:13 AM   #120
Tech Addict
 
NitroWD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 622
Trader Rating: 5 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by revo523 View Post
I think you would have to use the new style bulkheads.
from what know; the new rear bracket, bulkheads, etc...wont fit the S chassis. Rear of the S chassis is wider and mounting holes are different from the RS.

i think the fly arms shld fit the S but length of the S and fly arms are of diff length. Fly arms are longer i suppose.
__________________
* Earth's fate depends on what we do TODAY... *
+ Earth got all the time in the world; but we DON'T... +
NitroWD is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Team Magic G4 Motorman Nitro On-Road 11759 12-09-2016 06:09 AM
The Big Locked Thread donitaROSE Manila Racers 89718 03-26-2015 08:17 AM
What to do with my G4? .:Andy:. Nitro On-Road 31 02-02-2009 02:26 AM
Xray NT1 vs Team Magic G4S badKarma Nitro On-Road 35 10-13-2007 02:26 AM
RD Logics Mongoose G4 Team Magic Evo Nitro Touring Car lidebt2 Nitro On-Road 20 08-11-2007 06:38 PM
Team Magic G4 Evo, must sell Raul Garcia R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 32 10-16-2004 04:24 PM



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -7. It is currently 05:12 AM.


We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.
Powered By: vBulletin v3.9.2.1
Privacy Policy | Terms of Use | Advertise Content © 2001-2011 RCTech.net