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Old 09-04-2003, 11:23 PM   #1
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I have the opportunity to use either fuel in 30%. Any experiences with either brand ?? Thanks for your input.
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I have always thought Odonnel fuel is the best

Try it if you havent
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I used to run odonnels's but the price got to high, then one day i met Maxy Valesco (sp?) at a race and he let me run some maxy's fuel, I will never switch back. Just as much performance same temps or lower and better effeciancy. Not to say odonnels is a bad fuel but you may want to give maxy's a look if it is available by you
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Definetly O'Donnell! I wouldn't even use a Mugen fuel bottle. Half the time the Mugen guys don't even use Mugen fuel. Bet they will deny that, but I have pictures.
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Odonnel, Mugen/Byron or even Maxy Fuel, they are all not up to par in my opinion. Very sluggish and when you lean to get power, your engine overheats. Tried everything and I'll have to admit, with high humidities and ambient temperatures, it is very difficult to tune engines right. We have all tried those fuels that are available here. None can beat Tornado fuels. Period.
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Half the time the Mugen guys don't even use Mugen fuel. Bet they will deny that, but I have pictures.
Which "mugen guys" are you talking about?

I take it you're not talking about the Japanese team?
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Which "mugen guys" are you talking about?

I take it you're not talking about the Japanese team?
U.S. guys The Japanese team doesn't even talk to the U.S. team from what I hear. Allegedly I am just bitter, so I am only offering my opinion nothing more and certainly nothing less. I have seen them personally use O'Donnel and Rocket Science fuels besides Mugen fuel at different events and I am sure we will hear their excuse or justification here at some point. Please remember I am bitter.
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U.S. guys The Japanese team doesn't even talk to the U.S. team from what I hear. Allegedly I am just bitter, so I am only offering my opinion nothing more and certainly nothing less. I have seen them personally use O'Donnel and Rocket Science fuels besides Mugen fuel at different events and I am sure we will hear their excuse or justification here at some point. Please remember I am bitter.
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They're not that bad,I'm sure you know!
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Odonnel, Mugen/Byron or even Maxy Fuel, they are all not up to par in my opinion. Very sluggish and when you lean to get power, your engine overheats. Tried everything and I'll have to admit, with high humidities and ambient temperatures, it is very difficult to tune engines right. We have all tried those fuels that are available here. None can beat Tornado fuels. Period.
ODonnel and Byron not up to par?

What type of course are you playing on,a par 3 or 5?
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yeah, which MUGEN guys? I use byrons 40%. I have used odonnel and it makes the internals rust, even if you use after run oil. So i switched. Use MUGEN or Byrons if you can find it.
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ODonnel and Byron not up to par?

What type of course are you playing on,a par 3 or 5?
the matter of vision........
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Odonnel, Mugen/Byron or even Maxy Fuel, they are all not up to par in my opinion. Very sluggish and when you lean to get power, your engine overheats. Tried everything and I'll have to admit, with high humidities and ambient temperatures, it is very difficult to tune engines right. We have all tried those fuels that are available here. None can beat Tornado fuels. Period.
I agree with you D about the Byron, I was using Tornado but was recommended to try the Byron but it's definately not as crisp as the Tornado so will be changing back as soon as I've used up this gallon!
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Take 2 engines and run them the same amount with both fuels. You'll see the difference.


Mugen/Byron's Fuel all the way!!! This stuff is the s*it!!!
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With Odonnel -ALL of my motors rusted up....

if I remember right Big George had a motor sieze while breaking in with Odonnel, it siezed because some "varnish" built up on the piston & sleeve ( Roger u need to talk to killer keith)

I have been using Byron for the last 3yrs with no problems & even if I forget to oil the motor I have yet to have one rust up or sieze.

I do however add another ounce of castor to the gallon. I also did this with the odonnel.
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WOW ! Considering that I opened this thread up back in September, im finally getting awnsers. Anyways, thanks for all the great information that all of you provided. Im sure that this information will be good for other racers as well.

Back in Sept. I used the method that theRED5 suggested. Through-out the month, I stoppped using the Odonnell fuel and ran with the mugen stuff. Like what a bunch of you have experienced, this " RUST " like substance in the motor that ran Odonnell. Why does it do that ? The Mugen fuel is the same as Byron's but with no " RUST " like substance after you put the motor away for storing.

Anyways guys, this website is the best for information on any rc related information. Thanks again guys.
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