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Old 08-22-2008, 11:22 AM   #16
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Locally we race every Saturday except the first weekend of the month where we run on Sunday. We run 5 min qualies because we have so many classes. On a given weekend (saturday or sunday not both days) we may have up to 6 classes running and going 3 rounds of qualifying. It's simply impossible to run 10 minute qualifiers when you have that many classes running on a given day. Luckily with the number of racers we get there usually isn't a problem with marshalls or finding a good pitman.
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Old 08-22-2008, 11:27 AM   #17
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Any reason to not run 10 minute qualy?
I guess it depends on who's footing the tire bill
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What about 1hr or 30 min quals, Like in formula 1 you have an hour to lay your best time but in between that you can bring it in make some shcanges and go back out within that time limit
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I'm a big F1 fan, but there are some big differences from wht we do. They are filling the grid for one simgle race, not multiple heats of the same class + different classes.
They use 3 rounds of qualifying. First round is 20 minutes (I think). Fastest single lap counts. Slowest 6 get relegated to the back 3 rows. Second round is 15 minutes. Slowest 6 of the remaining drivers get the next 3 rows. The remaining 8 go for pole in Q3. 10 min window. Must start race with the fuel they have left after qual attempt.
I have wanted to try and come up with a format for an RC event loosely based on the F1 format.
For normal weekly race days, the normal 5 min quals make sense.
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Old 08-22-2008, 12:55 PM   #20
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What about 1hr or 30 min quals, Like in formula 1 you have an hour to lay your best time but in between that you can bring it in make some shcanges and go back out within that time limit
I'm not sure pro drivers would like to adopt that kind of qualification. One obvious problems : when group of pro drivers, newbees and slower drivers are doing qualifying at the same time. The slower cars won't be able to catch up the pace. It could lead into big crashes, shouting angry words, etc.
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Old 08-22-2008, 12:59 PM   #21
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Me, no problem with 10 minutes qualifying. I like long race....... so I can enjoy the whole day
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Actually one of my favorite forms of qualifying was the session style our club used to use. You were put into 10 or 15 min qualifiers just like always (except for the time) but instead of total laps determining your time it was your three fastest CONSECUTIVE laptimes. It was no pressure, no mileage issues, no worries just hammer down. You could run 30 laps or 3, it didn't matter.
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Actually one of my favorite forms of qualifying was the session style our club used to use. You were put into 10 or 15 min qualifiers just like always (except for the time) but instead of total laps determining your time it was your three fastest CONSECUTIVE laptimes. It was no pressure, no mileage issues, no worries just hammer down. You could run 30 laps or 3, it didn't matter.
C I like that use some time get your car up to temp run your hardest for 3 laps and your done no use in bashing your car up for the remainder of the time
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At our club we always have 2 x 10 min qualifiers. The only difference with most clubs is that we use the fastest time and not the amount of laps.

this gives you the chance to pull out in a qualifier and adjust your car if necessary. You can even pit yourself !!!
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5 MIN. for club races and 10 min. at some big events if it is time permitting...


Everything else IMO seems to complicate things....
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At our club we always have 2 x 10 min qualifiers. The only difference with most clubs is that we use the fastest time and not the amount of laps.

this gives you the chance to pull out in a qualifier and adjust your car if necessary. You can even pit yourself !!!
Doesn't that cause a lot of ties if you are just using one lap in basically a 20 min. qualifier?
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It hasn't happened yet. They use the drivers fastest time to place his starting position in the main.

I do agree it's odd as a few people from other clubs who come to race are a bit bewildered by it.
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One option... I know with RC Scoring Pro, you get on the print outs, your best 5 lap avg and 10 lap avg... So make qualifying 10 mins, and the group is 15 to 20 cars... Use the Best 5 Lap avg to seat the main.... this would be the same as 5 min for groups of 10...

and no more warm up time... when the clock is on it is on for 10mins...

Just a thought....
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Why do people always want to make things more complicated than they have to be? 5m or 10 m qualys, the most laps TQs. I can see 10 minutes working for bigger events, but for regular club races 5m works better.
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Its not trying to be complicated, trying to add a different spice to the recipe. You know try something new if it works GREAT if it doesnt you tried
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