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Old 01-13-2006, 03:41 AM   #8551
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yes the stock gearing on the ntc3 is 0.8
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Old 01-13-2006, 03:44 AM   #8552
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and regarding the prices in australia, they will be 50% cheaper!!!!!
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yes the stock gearing on the ntc3 is 0.8
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Old 01-13-2006, 04:07 AM   #8554
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Does "The Fix" still work on any of the new NTC3's with the Version 2 rear end? Also does the Factory Team version come with the better plastic arms etc?

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Old 01-13-2006, 04:04 PM   #8555
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Version 2 doesnt change the need to use "the fix".....the fix is for the front end diff case and prevents the diff case screws/shock tower stripping out of the front diff case in the event of a front end collision.........Version 2 is basically a rear suspension update/upgrade fromt he original.
The arms etc used on the FT NTC3 i found to be very good/durable
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Old 01-13-2006, 08:31 PM   #8556
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hooked_on: no probs

andyt:arnt you racing at ec today??? and do you still run your ntc3 ???
just curious because there arnt many who are currently driving the ntc3(in sydney) partly because of the insanely high prices associated parts used to cost!!!
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Wouldve loved to have raced at EC but unfortunately had to work nighthshift
I`m no longer racing the NTC3.....changed to the RRR simply because it became so hard to get parts locally.
The FT NTC3 i raced was quite good around EC....its not too large a track and i reckon it suited the NTC3 quite well.
I`ve got a couple of mates still racing them.....1 is running a Collari 7 port...its an absolute weapon along the EC straight
A mate of mine is racing his NTC3 in pullstart class at Summernats.....the Fairy Meadow track suits the NTC3 nicely.
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Old 01-15-2006, 02:19 AM   #8558
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yeah i raced there at fairy meadow today and made it in to the A final with the big boys.i was running the ntc3 but i couldnt find any rear traction
i was running 40f and 35r tires and im thinking of going to 32r.im using the greenspring in the rear and shocks are layed down with no swaybar. i just don't know what else to do ????
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im using the one-way in the front.do you think i should try a ball diff in the front ????
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Hey AE

Which engine are you running? Im andys mate thats runing the NTC3 @ Summernats with the pullstart so Im interested to get some tips of you!
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amazing by the looks of this thread the ntc3 is getting into australia great -- I also struggle for rear traction and have as yet been unable to solve it <sigh> any suggestions let me know thanks guys I run rubber tyres
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yeah i raced there at fairy meadow today and made it in to the A final with the big boys.i was running the ntc3 but i couldnt find any rear traction
i was running 40f and 35r tires and im thinking of going to 32r.im using the greenspring in the rear and shocks are layed down with no swaybar. i just don't know what else to do ????



wow.32 in malaysia,the lowest i use is 37 lolz.hmmm.maybe use copper springs in the rear???see if that works
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... but i couldnt find any rear traction ...
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yeah i raced there at fairy meadow today and made it in to the A final with the big boys.i was running the ntc3 but i couldnt find any rear traction
i was running 40f and 35r tires and im thinking of going to 32r.im using the greenspring in the rear and shocks are layed down with no swaybar. i just don't know what else to do ????
To me, I find it better to work on the car setup, rather than to go to the extent of going to 35/32R for traction. I was running the NTC3 for the past 3 years on a cemented carpark track, tire wear was high, traction is not too great but OK. Traction wise, 37 is good, 35 is the best; but tire wear is a pain. We managed to found out the best combination of 37F 40R for the track (which caters more to a rubber tire track), complementing the factors of tire wear, traction and the handling with the car setup; WITHOUT any compensation on speed.

It could all be the one-way you're using. Top drivers over here tried the one-way on the car, but still they find the diff to be THE "THING" for the NTC3. You could always work on the diff tightness to gain steering up front, while not sacrificing the rear traction. But if you insisted on using the one-way, it helps to increase the rear traction by
1) Stiffening the front antiroll bar/front shocks
2) Increase rear droop
3) Lower rear roll center(more horizontal camber link)
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wow.32 in malaysia,the lowest i use is 37 lolz.hmmm.maybe use copper springs in the rear???see if that works
He was using green springs and fighting for traction, copper springs are 13lbs. harder than the green ones my friend; he's gonna have a doughnut on the track I'm afraid.

Playing with spring rates is interesting. Going too soft does not necessarily mean you will get all the traction you want; on the other hand, going harder does not necessarily mean you will lose traction. Going too soft on the rear might cause traction roll or causing the car to break loose suddenly; harder springs could make the breaking of traction felt smoother...it all depends on the track condition. Happy experimenting!
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