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Old 01-08-2006, 11:11 PM   #8536
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also with the shocks, what is the purpose of the vc foam bobbin ???? can you take it out because my shocks are not long enough and the droop screws don't even touch the chassis.so i only get about 2mm of droop before the shocks fully extend.
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where do you cut the stock clutch shoes to make them engage later ?????
Cut it at where it's at the opposite end of the flywheel pin hole; or drill holes (parellel to the flywheel pin hole) to make it lighter, which has the same effect of a later engagement.
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also with the shocks, what is the purpose of the vc foam bobbin ???? can you take it out because my shocks are not long enough and the droop screws don't even touch the chassis.so i only get about 2mm of droop before the shocks fully extend.
The VC foam bobbin serves its effect of damping, taking it out will mean taking away the effect of shocks. If your shocks are not long enough, it is probably that you screwed the shock shaft too far into the shock eyelet. Unscrew and backing out the eyelet on the shock shaft will extend further downwards your suspension arm, increasing the downward arm travel, hence you'll be able to achieve the desired droop. Make sure it's equal length on both sides when you do that.
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yes but ive had other kits that didnt have anything inside the shocks except oil and they worked fine


and doesnt the oil do all the damping inside the shock? because when you want to change damping on the car, you change oil.

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yes but ive had other kits that didnt have anything inside the shocks except oil and they worked fine


and doesnt the oil do all the damping inside the shock? because when you want to change damping on the car, you change oil.
You're partly right... Different oil viscosity affects the damping, but damping is not totally dependant on oil alone. Volume of silicone oil contained in the shock body too has an effect.

The foam sleeve held onto the plastic bobbin actually acts as a volume compensator. As the shock shaft enters the shock body, the foam sleeve absorbs the shock fluid that is displaced by the shock shaft in the shock body.
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ohh i get it now, so what lengths do you think i should unwind the ends to because the book does not specify a certain lenght???

are they different lengths for front to rear or all the same ???
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When I fitted the Yok bladder caps to my TC4 shocks I took the foam off the bobbin, the foam is only for volume compensation and with the bladder caps on it is not needed.

You can remove the foam when installing bladder style caps but you can't remove the bobbin itself, the bobbin holds the sealing o-rings in their place, without the bobbin the shocks will just spew all their oil out the bottom.
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without the foam in there does the shock have a longer stroke ????
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without the foam in there does the shock have a longer stroke ????
No, you can increase the length of the shock by unscrewing the ballcup or using a longer ball cup, but you can't actually increase the stroke of the shock.

I would make all the shocks the same length as well if unscrewing the ballcups slightly, especially side to side.

I've never had a problem with downtravel on my NTC3 even when the foams get small, and I usually run around 5-6mm of rideheight.
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yup.as what fathead and tommi said,u should be able to solve the problem by unscrewing the ball cup.good luck.btw,any ntc3 owners here have the vsc2 upgrade kit yet?
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im getting the vsc2 shock upgrade soon and i did unwind the ballends and it solved the problem

where exactly do you cut the stock clutch shoes ???
if anyone has a pic it would be helpful
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i have no idea about the clutch shoes.i only changed the springs and did nothing about the shoes.it works fantastic.i think i'm using copper spring.can't remember
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Hi Guys

With the change of agent for AE in Australia, have parts become anymore available and cheaper?

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I havent seen any great increases in AE parts in the LHS`s I`ve been in lately, but who knows it may take some time longer for the parts to get more prominent in shops?
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I havent seen any great increases in AE parts in the LHS`s I`ve been in lately, but who knows it may take some time longer for the parts to get more prominent in shops?

AndyT: Thank you


Everyone: Is the stock gearing on the NTC3 0.8?

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