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Old 04-06-2004, 09:58 AM   #5971
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Oversteering car with to little grip in the rear combined with a "Colin McRae" driving style overloading the rear gears... Could be wrongly shimed also.
Yup. I can attest to crashed_1's Colin McRae driving style !
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Old 04-06-2004, 09:59 AM   #5972
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Same here........I am still using the 3 years old stock black diff gear....I have seen others stripped front and rear diff, most of them are running the AE front 1-way....and some are Yokomo 1-way....but I am running stock ball diff..........

I think they have to check on the correct shim amount....I am using whatever manual told me to, and nothing happened to my NTC3 for like 60 plus races....I even purchased the revised white/yellow diff gears from AE just incase my stock one will fail on me....almost a year now, I still haven't open the revised gear yet.....now, I am not sure do I really need those...LOL.

Oh....use some light grease on the gear will help....I check the diff on every 2-3 races.
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Thanks for the help I'll have him check the shimming first seeing he's not running a centax clutch.
Could a 3 shoe clutch with the copper springs do the same thing?
Using the 3 shoe clutch will not do any harm to the diff....but the reason to use a 3 shoes clutch is suppose when you ahve a HIGH TORQUE high HP engine........if you are running a OS TR T engine, I doubt that engine will produce enough power to rip the diff gear...

At least my NR-RS12 T5 S1 with 2 shoes still not powerfull enough to rip any gears on my NTC3.
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nitro house sells the hong nor clutch too. this includes the engine mounts and the centratorque clutch (just like in niklas' pics). an alternative is to use the mugen centax clutch (LD3 users tried this too) but placed a few shims between the engine and mounts, this is when you use the hong nor engine mounts. the reason for using the mugen clutch is because its cheaper than the hong nor one (in the US that is..)
Thanks.........the reason I want to try that LD3 option power clutch is because it can use 28T (just realized that they have 29T on 2nd..wow, that is FAST).....But I have a quesiton for you....does Mugen Centax clutch housing work with the 28T/29T 0.8 gearing pinion? Thanks again....

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Old 04-06-2004, 12:05 PM   #5975
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Maybee its different with unlimited % nitro in the fuel (as in the US) but here in europe with 16% at leats its defenetly not always a faster way just to gear-up. In Portugal (EC2003) it was truly a HUGE track with the longest landing-strip stratight away seen on this planet and we still used 26T for second. We tried to gear-up to 27T and it didnt have any higher topspeed. It just consumed more juice. Our was just 1 Km/h slower then Salvens screemer (checked with radar gun). The torq in these tiny screemers arent the best...
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Maybee its different with unlimited % nitro in the fuel (as in the US) but here in europe with 16% at leats its defenetly not always a faster way just to gear-up. In Portugal (EC2003) it was truly a HUGE track with the longest landing-strip stratight away seen on this planet and we still used 26T for second. We tried to gear-up to 27T and it didnt have any higher topspeed. It just consumed more juice. Our was just 1 Km/h slower then Salvens screemer (checked with radar gun). The torq in these tiny screemers arent the best...
Hmmm, good explanation.......maybe I should think about is there any advantage on using 28T or even 29T 2nd gear....well, a little faster is always faster....
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Faster is better but taller gearing might not be better (lower ratio). I guess our NovaMega screemed some 40.000 + there and still could stay at 110 deg C. BTW I think the top speed was either 96 or 97 km/h if I remember it corectly... And that with the stock exhaust system (shortened though) that is said by "experts" to be torq only...!? Oh, and it was about 40 deg C also (over 100 F).
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Old 04-06-2004, 01:41 PM   #5978
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heres a clutch made by yokomo that is made for the
ntc3 it has the same specs as the mugen clutch but
the clutch bell is spaced alittle different to make it a
direct bolt in.
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looks good, just finish it off with some Nitro Shoes 's

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You bet, it will be the best party shoes on this car...
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Beyond, adjustability, just what are the benefits of a centax-style clutch??
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Old 04-06-2004, 07:09 PM   #5982
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rookiesolara, there are 2 versions of the hong nor clutch (.8 and 1 module). if you opt to use the mugen cltuch, be sure to get the one for 1.0 module for it to fit the ntc3. the reason some LD3 users get the mugen clutch is because its cheaper than the hong nor clutch (in the US). and put some shims between the engine mount and engine so that the flywheel wont scrape the road. i also know some people who use the kyosho centax.
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I think the mugen clutch will not fit the NTC3 though. I am happy with the 2 clutch shoe so far. Just need to scuff after every full day of running.
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Beyond, adjustability, just what are the benefits of a centax-style clutch??
You can tune how the clutch engages. More aggressive clutch engagement for high speed tracks. Smoother clutch engagement for smaller tracks.
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if you opt to use the mugen cltuch, be sure to get the one for 1.0 module for it to fit the ntc3.
Isn't the stock NTC3 gears already coming with 0.8 pitch?
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