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Old 05-19-2004, 02:36 AM   #1381
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Change the 46t Spur to 45T = FDR from 5.24 to 5.13
Change the 39T ring gear to 40T = FDR from 5.13 to 5.00
Change the 27T Pinion to MTX-3 28 Pinion = FDR from 5.00 to 4.82
Change the 27T Pinion to MTX-3 28 Pinion = FDR from 4.82 to 4.66
I think you meant this...

Change the 40T ring gear to 39T = FDR from 5.13 to 5.00
Change the 27T Pinion to MTX-3 28 Pinion = FDR from 5.00 to 4.82
Change the 28T Pinion to MTX-3 29 Pinion = FDR from 4.82 to 4.66
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Old 05-19-2004, 02:40 AM   #1382
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And if thats not enough get the Kawahara Centre conversion which changes the ring gears and bevel gears but i dont know what to (I have one on order)
I think like somebody mentioned that getting the Mugen clutch bell and fitting Mugen 0.8 module pinions is a cheaper solution !
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Old 05-19-2004, 02:43 AM   #1383
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So when I get the parts I should have the car where I want it!

Kawahara Centre Conversion
Kawahara Front Conversion
3racing chasis
3 racing top deck
MTX-3 rear hubs




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Old 05-19-2004, 02:47 AM   #1384
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I think you meant this...

Change the 40T ring gear to 39T = FDR from 5.13 to 5.00
Change the 27T Pinion to MTX-3 28 Pinion = FDR from 5.00 to 4.82
Change the 28T Pinion to MTX-3 29 Pinion = FDR from 4.82 to 4.66
Oops yeah I did.

I also edited the post as I found what the centre conversion does.

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Old 05-19-2004, 02:57 AM   #1385
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Front = 45 and 17
Back 46 and 17
Note that it will give a very slight front overdrive with that combo. About 1.5 mm worth of tire diameter difference between front and rear.

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Best option is to use centre conversion with 27 pinion = FDR 4.51
With the Mugen pinions and 39T ring gears;

1st gear (20/51) = 7.65
2nd gear (29/45) = 4.66

With the stock pinions and Kawahara ring gears;

1st gear (20/51) = 6.9
2nd gear (27/45) = 4.51

Which is cheaper and easier on spares?
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Old 05-19-2004, 02:58 AM   #1386
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Kawahara Centre Conversion
Kawahara Front Conversion
3racing chasis
3 racing top deck
MTX-3 rear hubs
That's a lot of money !
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Old 05-19-2004, 03:04 AM   #1387
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That's a lot of money !
At least i havent gone for the full conversion that moves the engine over to the left! I'll take a look at Nimo's to see if its worth it!!

Got any more pics of the conversion Nimo?

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Old 05-19-2004, 03:33 AM   #1388
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I don't deserve this car then if no one else is having gearing issues. At my track, Revelation Raceway, CA, the car is left in the dust. I have an NSR and the highest Kyosho gearing and still the car is horrible down the straight. It's as if the belt cars have 3 speeds when you compare them to this car. My S710 blows this car out of the water( only on the straight). Now what is the point of passing someone in the infield if they are going to pass you right back on the straight?

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All my engines run hotter in this car.
I think it's your manifold/pipe man. I will try and make it this sunday and you can see if my car with the Kyosho pipe works better--I couldn't stay full throttle very long before I had to let off for the corner. The car is nowhere near it's top speed at revelation's straight and I am using stock gears and 39t ring gears.
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Old 05-19-2004, 04:33 AM   #1389
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hi guys,
went to the track today to try a few things...short work day..
39 ring front, 40 ring rear, 22/50 , 29/45.
jp ns3 worlds (not too many of these babies around, i have 2).
kyosho pipe and header..........................
man does this car go.........our rear straight is at least 120metres long wth a sharp 90 degree bend at the end.
this car just keeps pulling........the car is twitchy at high speeds...i think due to trying a new radio as well...ex-10 helios........i blew second gear...on closer inspection i seen that the mesh wasnt 100%...out with the dremel and widened the engine mounting holes...now i got the mesh right...a quick run and no probs....now i need to work on the set-up...ran out of daylight...race day sunday......ill try a few things..
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Old 05-19-2004, 09:30 AM   #1390
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I don't deserve this car then if no one else is having gearing issues. At my track, Revelation Raceway, CA, the car is left in the dust. I have an NSR and the highest Kyosho gearing and still the car is horrible down the straight. It's as if the belt cars have 3 speeds when you compare them to this car. My S710 blows this car out of the water( only on the straight). Now what is the point of passing someone in the infield if they are going to pass you right back on the straight?

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All my engines run hotter in this car.
Have you remember to turn the head 90 degrees, as most have cooling vent for transverse fitment and the FW05 is longtitude fitment.
Also the motors in the FW need to be set up different to other cars due to the pipe.
Try richening the bottom end and lean out the top end (it will take a while to get it right), that's what I done to my NS12 S3 and boy does it scream.
Also make sure you haven't overgeared the car (as most appear to be doing), 21/50 - 26/45 with 39 diff is plenty for the 150ft Aldershot straight.
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Also make sure you haven't overgeared the car (as most appear to be doing), 21/50 - 26/45 with 39 diff is plenty for the 150ft Aldershot straight.
I believe Rev Race has a longer straights than that.
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Old 05-19-2004, 09:59 AM   #1392
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man does this car go.........our rear straight is at least 120metres long wth a sharp 90 degree bend at the end.
Are you sure that it not 120 feet? 120 meters is like close to 400 feet !

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out with the dremel and widened the engine mounting holes...
Woow ! You come to the track very equipped with the dremel !
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I think you meant this...

Change the 40T ring gear to 39T = FDR from 5.13 to 5.00
Change the 27T Pinion to MTX-3 28 Pinion = FDR from 5.00 to 4.82
Change the 28T Pinion to MTX-3 29 Pinion = FDR from 4.82 to 4.66
i guess that i can wait to build it and test it from there! i will be asking advise from you "D" just as i did for my 710
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Old 05-19-2004, 02:32 PM   #1394
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hi ther "d"
our total track length is 320 metres, i know as george and i done the curbing..(site...RRCSA ).....yes the back straight is 120 metres....120 feet...thats a miniz track....in australia we have very big, purpose built tracks. quenslands straight is about 140 metres...sydney has a front straight of about 70 metres but they have a long winding back area........melbourne back straight is huge as well with a 30degree camber comming off...very fast..
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