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Old 05-18-2004, 02:49 PM   #1366
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im thinking of purchasing a kit(FW-05) as a second car,does it come with a one way in the kit? do they have a pro edition? thanks
just placed an order for the FW-05R ! I'll get it on Friday ,cant wait !!
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From looking at your track I can tell you you willl be dissapointed with the car down the stright. I tried the diff then the one-way and I'm now back to the diff. This car car works really good with a solid front axle. The oneway has an on-power push that i could never get rid of. Before you run the car I suggest the 39t ring gears or the Kawahara ones.
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Old 05-18-2004, 08:18 PM   #1368
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Nah, they are Manti's cars I believe.
At least he's the one I stole the pic's from.

As I said to Mike, I haven't done the Mugen mod but others have. They seem to think it improves the camber gain in cornering as you would expect. The main reason I didn't try it, apart from laziness, was that the Mugen also has a much shorter top link and I suspect that just doing the hubs etc. is only half the job. Maybe it's better than nothing, though.
so manti has a new toy to play with eh? hehe! send my regards to him taylor! boy, its a long time since he posted something here. btw, why did he stop at 10001 posts?
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btw, why did he stop at 10001 posts?
Because he has won
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Old 05-18-2004, 10:19 PM   #1370
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From looking at your track I can tell you you willl be dissapointed with the car down the stright. I tried the diff then the one-way and I'm now back to the diff. This car car works really good with a solid front axle. The oneway has an on-power push that i could never get rid of. Before you run the car I suggest the 39t ring gears or the Kawahara ones.
are you saying that the car is no good in long straightaways, i'm confused
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Old 05-18-2004, 10:34 PM   #1371
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are you saying that the car is no good in long straightaways, i'm confused
What do you think? A car with the stock 40T ring gears would only do a 5.13 as the minimum FDR. 5.0 with the optional 39T ring gears.

The cheaper way like what others have suggested is to buy the 29T 0.8 gear pinions from MTX-3 and their clutchbell with the FW05R centax clutch.

With the 39T ring gears, you will bring the FDR down to 4.65 with 29T/45T combo.
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Old 05-19-2004, 12:33 AM   #1372
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I wanted to say hello to everyone on the board. I have been reading the entire thread for the past few days. Thanks for all the great info. I live in Japan and the fw-05r is truly becoming the car of choice on most tracks.

I will mention that I love this car fw-05r foam with os tr p te spec engine kit. It is amazing. I thought I has it well dialed in but last weekend a spring change, ride height/droop and tire change got me about 95% of the way there. It drove great out of the box but with those setting changes i felt as if I couldnt shake it out of the line I was in even if I tried. Unfortunately while lapping a slower car the other driver lost control and hit me coming out of the high speed right hand sweeper onto front straight and sent me absolutely flying over the fence. Last night on teardown I found a tweak in the chasis and more small damages, so a replacement sp 7075 kyo chasis was swapped. I also did the 39th hd gears and lightweight tranny gear oneway holder as well as a bunch more. I was sad because the car had just started to shine and then poof a complete rebuild was needed. with this boards help it will be even better now.
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Old 05-19-2004, 01:16 AM   #1373
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are you saying that the car is no good in long straightaways, i'm confused
Straight line speed is not a problem, it's just that the car runs so free you need to gear up to meet the speed the car wants to go.
I had a recent meeting on a circuit wit a fast straight, the first 2/3rds I was even with a number of cars but the last 3rd they run out of puff just as though they have a speed limiter, where as my motor just kept revving higher and higher thus requiring the higher gear ratio. I was on 27/45 with 39 diffs.
It was actually a bit nerve racking as I had to make sure I was not in line with another car otherwise I would simply rear end them.
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Old 05-19-2004, 01:53 AM   #1374
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What do you think? A car with the stock 40T ring gears would only do a 5.13 as the minimum FDR. 5.0 with the optional 39T ring gears.

The cheaper way like what others have suggested is to buy the 29T 0.8 gear pinions from MTX-3 and their clutchbell with the FW05R centax clutch.

With the 39T ring gears, you will bring the FDR down to 4.65 with 29T/45T combo.
Whats the FDR for other cars such as the MTX-3 and the VoneRR EVO?
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Whats the FDR for other cars such as the MTX-3 and the VoneRR EVO?
MTX-3 using the 1.0 gearing has a lowest FDR of 5.05 using 21T/42T combo.

The RR EVO has the lowest FDR of 5.15 with 27T/55T combo while the MTX-3 with 0.8 module gearing has a lowest FDR of 4.53 with 29T/52T combo if I'm not mistaken.
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What about the EVO with the fast conversion kit? That gearing is too tall so how does it compare with the MTX-3's of 4.53?

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I don't deserve this car then if no one else is having gearing issues. At my track, Revelation Raceway, CA, the car is left in the dust. I have an NSR and the highest Kyosho gearing and still the car is horrible down the straight. It's as if the belt cars have 3 speeds when you compare them to this car. My S710 blows this car out of the water( only on the straight). Now what is the point of passing someone in the infield if they are going to pass you right back on the straight?

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All my engines run hotter in this car.
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My S710 blows this car out of the water( only on the straight).
You have a 710?

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All my engines run hotter in this car.
Of course it's going to run hotter if the engine screams more.
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What about the EVO with the fast conversion kit? That gearing is too tall so how does it compare with the MTX-3's of 4.53?
Ziggy, the "fast" conversion converts the internal ratio of the V1RR / EVO from 2.53 to 2.0 !

So using 27T/55T, it would make the gearing very tall with a FDR of 4.07 !

I guess if you're using the "fast" pulley conversion, you should go with 25T/56T for the 2nd gear combo to arrive at a FDR of 4.48. That's pretty reasonable I think. But note that the 1st gear will suffer a little as even with 20T/61T, it will yield a FDR of 6.1.
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I don't deserve this car then if no one else is having gearing issues. At my track, Revelation Raceway, CA, the car is left in the dust. I have an NSR and the highest Kyosho gearing and still the car is horrible down the straight. It's as if the belt cars have 3 speeds when you compare them to this car. My S710 blows this car out of the water( only on the straight). Now what is the point of passing someone in the infield if they are going to pass you right back on the straight?

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All my engines run hotter in this car.
I think most people are having gearing problems but they can be easily overcome. There are a number of solutions

Change the 46t Spur to 45T = FDR from 5.24 to 5.13
Change the 39T ring gear to 40T = FDR from 5.13 to 5.00
Change the 27T Pinion to MTX-3 28 Pinion = FDR from 5.00 to 4.82
Change the 27T Pinion to MTX-3 28 Pinion = FDR from 4.82 to 4.66

And if thats not enough get the Kawahara Centre conversion which changes the ring gears
Front = 45 and 17
Back 46 and 17

FDR from 4.66 to 4.20 (way too big)

Best option is to use centre conversion with 27 pinion = FDR 4.51


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