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Old 05-16-2004, 04:51 PM   #1336
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There is nothing in the rules to stop you using a touring shell but I've seen some huge shunts where a tourer backs off for a corner but the Lola goes flat.
You then have to work out which piece goes with which car.
Until they change the rules, I will stay with Rubber, even though I'm a good lap or 2 faster on Foams.
Yes true. BRCA.

The touring shells on foams are IFMAR though so until BRCA changes I agree with you ...
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Old 05-17-2004, 01:42 AM   #1337
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Start your own series!! Foams with touring shells. I'll join

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Old 05-17-2004, 06:04 PM   #1338
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hi guys..thought you should know.


check out the rear of the pre-worlds fw that won....notice that he has the NEW "RRR" rear hubs on the car.( does this chang the roll centres enough to work?)...
i notice that the rear of the fw has the same tendances as the v-one series...i reckon its because of two reasons..
1:- being the same person who designed the v-one series designed this car.
2:- they wanted to use up as much of the old tooling as they could, without being too aware that the v-one rear DOES not work...i have to modify my rear end to get it to work as i like ( i have been running the v-one series since the first v-one-r)...Simon Cammeleri and i have been trying to get the car to work...its about 90%....Simon now runs the mugen(sponsored) as he gave up with the kyosho...........
now the question is.................why release a NEW car that does not work as well as it should....i mean kyosho has a fantastic 1/8 scale, but their 1/10 tourers are not up to it....i do love the kyosho as it is very strong and we cant all run Mugens...
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Old 05-17-2004, 06:07 PM   #1339
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the car that won
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Old 05-17-2004, 06:10 PM   #1340
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notice the difference in the old to the new hubs.
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Old 05-17-2004, 06:46 PM   #1341
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hi guys..thought you should know.


check out the rear of the pre-worlds fw that won....notice that he has the NEW "RRR" rear hubs on the car.( does this chang the roll centres enough to work?)...
i notice that the rear of the fw has the same tendances as the v-one series...i reckon its because of two reasons..
1:- being the same person who designed the v-one series designed this car.
2:- they wanted to use up as much of the old tooling as they could, without being too aware that the v-one rear DOES not work...i have to modify my rear end to get it to work as i like ( i have been running the v-one series since the first v-one-r)...Simon Cammeleri and i have been trying to get the car to work...its about 90%....Simon now runs the mugen(sponsored) as he gave up with the kyosho...........
now the question is.................why release a NEW car that does not work as well as it should....i mean kyosho has a fantastic 1/8 scale, but their 1/10 tourers are not up to it....i do love the kyosho as it is very strong and we cant all run Mugens...
Where can we get the new hubs?
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Old 05-17-2004, 07:06 PM   #1342
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hi guys..thought you should know.


check out the rear of the pre-worlds fw that won....notice that he has the NEW "RRR" rear hubs on the car.( does this chang the roll centres enough to work?)...
i notice that the rear of the fw has the same tendances as the v-one series...i reckon its because of two reasons..
1:- being the same person who designed the v-one series designed this car.
2:- they wanted to use up as much of the old tooling as they could, without being too aware that the v-one rear DOES not work...i have to modify my rear end to get it to work as i like ( i have been running the v-one series since the first v-one-r)...Simon Cammeleri and i have been trying to get the car to work...its about 90%....Simon now runs the mugen(sponsored) as he gave up with the kyosho...........
now the question is.................why release a NEW car that does not work as well as it should....i mean kyosho has a fantastic 1/8 scale, but their 1/10 tourers are not up to it....i do love the kyosho as it is very strong and we cant all run Mugens...
That is not a RRR rear hub, it is the Mugen MTX-3 hub. The style is the same though.

Kyosho really likes to "reuse and recycle" their parts, so many parts from the V one R made it to the 05R. Only recently with the RRR are parts changed. In this aspect, Kyosho seems to be very conservative, although that can be bad at times.
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Old 05-17-2004, 07:35 PM   #1343
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how can you tell that they are mugen hubs?
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Old 05-17-2004, 07:57 PM   #1344
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Anyone know anything about what to buy to convert the fw-05r to use mugen pinions and spurs?
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Old 05-17-2004, 08:23 PM   #1345
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how can you tell that they are mugen hubs?
I read in a Japanese magazine, where they had photos and description of Ito's car.

Many people do it on the EVO too. They call it the MIRR conversion.
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Anyone know anything about what to buy to convert the fw-05r to use mugen pinions and spurs?
I'm trying to find out the same.. I found that the mugen clutch bell is the first thing to start with...
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still wondering wat is the performance gain tat we will get if using mugen gears. anyone out there able to help with parts 2 get for conversion to use mugen gears?? thanks.
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hi guys.
two things.
first to "B" can you tell me what parts are neede to use the "M1RR" ste up....or can you send me a better pic?
two.
i use the mugen clutch bell with the active hardened mugen 28/29 second pinion and an active kyosho hardened 22 fist pinion with the stock kyosho gears...no worries, but be sure only to use the same bell wiyh the same clutch shoe...the kyosho and the mugen bells are slightly different..so change the shoe as well as the bell if you change to differnt bells through out the meeting
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Mike,

That would also mean you have to switch to the whole clutch assembly from Mugen right? The Mugen has four pins where the Kyosho has only 3.
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hi guys.
two things.
first to "B" can you tell me what parts are neede to use the "M1RR" ste up....or can you send me a better pic?
two.
i use the mugen clutch bell with the active hardened mugen 28/29 second pinion and an active kyosho hardened 22 fist pinion with the stock kyosho gears...no worries, but be sure only to use the same bell wiyh the same clutch shoe...the kyosho and the mugen bells are slightly different..so change the shoe as well as the bell if you change to differnt bells through out the meeting
Hey,

I don't have the parts needed for the M1RR setup, but if you look using the search function, you will for sure find one (it was posted many times). My advise, however, is to just use the RRR one when the EVO comes out, since more parts may be compatible. Also, very likely, the rear hub setup one the RRR will be on the next update of the 05R
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