R/C Tech Forums

Go Back   R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Nitro On-Road

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 04-16-2004, 12:58 AM   #1066
Tech Prophet
 
InitialD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: MORDOR
Posts: 19,679
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by ATOMIC
I guess a better way to say it would be that a thicker rear sway bar usually gives more steering entering and more forward acceleration exiting due to the fact that the car is flatter during the exit (keeping the rear of the car more level which in turn gives the tires more contact patch).
More forward bite ! Sway bars are all about shifting the available traction given on the car given from the tires. Harder rear sway bar shifts to the front traction and vice versa. Also the same with the front sway bar.

Quote:
Originally posted by ATOMIC
If you do not have enough wieght transfer to the rear of the car under power though the car will get loose.
Of course, there is always limits to everything.
InitialD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2004, 01:10 AM   #1067
Tech Addict
 
ATOMIC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 585
Trader Rating: 10 (100%+)
Default

Front to rear wieght transfer is controlled by the shocks and droop for the most part. Side to side by sway bars for the most part if they are introduced. It will always very front to rear though depending on the relative stiffness between the front and rear sway bars. I believe it comes back to roll , if the rear sway bar is stiffer than the front than there will be more roll in the front (as far as sway bars are concerned). Shock spring must also be concidered though. This is why I was suggesting to add steering in the front of the car with shock set-up before using the rear of the car to do this . It is always better to work on the end of the car that seems to be lacking rather than the other .
ATOMIC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2004, 01:10 AM   #1068
Tech Master
 
ziggy12345's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: West Midlands, UK
Posts: 1,596
Default

Esham your exhaust manifold is a lot shorter than mine. I am having trouble with top speed. Have you always used this length or changed from a longer one?

Thanks
ziggy12345 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2004, 01:13 AM   #1069
Tech Prophet
 
InitialD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: MORDOR
Posts: 19,679
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by ziggy12345
Esham your exhaust manifold is a lot shorter than mine. I am having trouble with top speed. Have you always used this length or changed from a longer one?
It looks like he forged that manifold on his own !
InitialD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2004, 01:14 AM   #1070
Tech Master
 
ziggy12345's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: West Midlands, UK
Posts: 1,596
Default

When I first built my FW-05 i had loads of steering. I then stripped it down and found I diddnt install the rear stiffener that connects the throttle servo to the upper deck and the upper deck to the chassis. Instead I just connected the servo to the upper deck.

When I installed this I lost a lot of steering. I havent tried removing it again yet but will do to see if I get the steering back.

Cant see why this should be, still worth a try!

Cheers
ziggy12345 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2004, 01:15 AM   #1071
Tech Prophet
 
InitialD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: MORDOR
Posts: 19,679
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by ATOMIC
This is why I was suggesting to add steering in the front of the car with shock set-up before using the rear of the car to do this . It is always better to work on the end of the car that seems to be lacking rather than the other .
I agree with you but wouldn't it be a faster way and less cumbersome way of tackling the problem by adjusting the sway bars or even change tires?

I guess different people have different ways of sorting out problems...
InitialD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2004, 01:15 AM   #1072
Tech Master
 
ziggy12345's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: West Midlands, UK
Posts: 1,596
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by InitialD
It looks like he forged that manifold on his own !
Thats what I was thinking but was trying to be diplomatic!! LOL..
ziggy12345 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2004, 01:16 AM   #1073
Tech Elite
 
esham's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: racing line - push to the limit
Posts: 2,942
Default

Initial D, do have any photos of yours ( FW05R)
__________________
Kyosho R4/V1RRREvo2/ OSpeed>Nova353T & S/Evo4M>Nova-KeepOnS
Transponder Pokok Cherry- [email protected]
Kelab Peminat Kereta Kawalan Jauh Ipoh, Perak
esham is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2004, 01:18 AM   #1074
Tech Prophet
 
InitialD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: MORDOR
Posts: 19,679
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by esham
Initial D, do have any photos of yours ( FW05R)
Still waiting for someone to donate !
InitialD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2004, 01:20 AM   #1075
Tech Prophet
 
InitialD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: MORDOR
Posts: 19,679
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by ziggy12345
Thats what I was thinking but was trying to be diplomatic!! LOL..
That's a good one !

It looks like esham bent that manifold from an old one piece pipe that he was not using.

Ehsam, mind telling us how you "got" that short manifold?
InitialD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2004, 01:32 AM   #1076
Tech Elite
 
esham's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: racing line - push to the limit
Posts: 2,942
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by ziggy12345
Esham your exhaust manifold is a lot shorter than mine. I am having trouble with top speed. Have you always used this length or changed from a longer one?

Thanks
It is correct as Initial D mention before it is modified. Ordered RD Logic and Five Star manifold but it not arrive till now so no choice I convert my left pipe to right and bend the manifold! That was not easy my friend

Not test the kit yet but i believe i will have problem with the top speed there..
__________________
Kyosho R4/V1RRREvo2/ OSpeed>Nova353T & S/Evo4M>Nova-KeepOnS
Transponder Pokok Cherry- [email protected]
Kelab Peminat Kereta Kawalan Jauh Ipoh, Perak
esham is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2004, 01:35 AM   #1077
Tech Elite
 
esham's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: racing line - push to the limit
Posts: 2,942
Talking

Attached Images
File Type: jpg dsc04562.jpg (85.5 KB, 146 views)
__________________
Kyosho R4/V1RRREvo2/ OSpeed>Nova353T & S/Evo4M>Nova-KeepOnS
Transponder Pokok Cherry- [email protected]
Kelab Peminat Kereta Kawalan Jauh Ipoh, Perak
esham is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2004, 01:36 AM   #1078
Tech Prophet
 
InitialD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: MORDOR
Posts: 19,679
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by esham
That was not easy my friend
Yes of course it's not easy ! It looked like you did some aluminum soldering job too. Did you do it yourself or did you go to the welding shop to do it?

Quote:
Originally posted by esham
Not test the kit yet but i believe i will have problem with the top speed there..
I don't think you'll have problem with top speed if you did the manifold correct. Besides, what is it to worry? Most tracks over here are small and more technical in nature.
InitialD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2004, 01:38 AM   #1079
Tech Prophet
 
InitialD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: MORDOR
Posts: 19,679
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by esham
Ummm, I don't know much about pipe designs but I believe there is a reason why manifolds should come as a separated unit from the main pipe. Vibrations?
InitialD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2004, 01:39 AM   #1080
Tech Fanatic
 
EVOLUTION's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Everywhere,yet Nowhere!
Posts: 978
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by esham
Initial D, do have any photos of yours ( FW05R)
Who said you have to own a car (FW05R) to show that you are an expert on setting it up, rattling off ratios and other info which can be generated by the click of mouse and posting gerneric info which can be found all over the internet?

Two and half years in RC today is more then enough for talented people to become experts on all makes and models.
EVOLUTION is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
FOR SALE - Mugen MBX5T ProSpec and Kyosho STR with chassis conversion and Kyosho big MattWells R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 5 04-28-2017 10:25 AM
1986 1/12 Kyosho Plazma MKIII With Kyosho LeMan 600E Motor Funkymojo R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 2 05-17-2012 11:11 AM
Custom painted Kyosho SP2 and Kyosho STRR bodies.... RC3 Graphics SWEET W/ PICS CRFXXXT R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 1 01-07-2008 07:38 PM
MACH. 28/NEW PS, KYOSHO MINI INFERNO ST/W/3NEW IB1400 8 CELL PACKS, KYOSHO 1./8 BUGGY newbie2 R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 5 11-18-2007 06:07 PM
Convert Kyosho Quick Start system on Kyosho QRC to Pullstart Morpheus2be Monster Trucks 0 02-16-2005 11:26 PM



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -7. It is currently 12:47 PM.


We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.
Powered By: vBulletin v3.9.2.1
Privacy Policy | Terms of Use | Advertise Content © 2001-2011 RCTech.net