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Old 10-13-2004, 12:11 AM   #3181
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hi all.
im using 35 fronts and 37 rears..with the softests front spring (light blue ) and sway bar..the hardest rear spring ( silver 1/8 scale) the new copper sway bar..RRR front and rear hubs..
its still a fight to get it around fast..
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Old 10-13-2004, 01:30 AM   #3182
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its still a fight to get it around fast..
Pushing on or off power?

What's your rear toe in? Front and rear camber? Are you able to adjust the rear roll center with the RRR hubs?
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Old 10-13-2004, 02:13 AM   #3183
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With 37 shore upfront (2mm smaller) and 40 Rear, I have minimal pushing problems and plenty of steering
If you look at the weight distribution of te FW you will see its rear end heavy, this is the reaon for the pushing. With a decent setup it can be eliminated completely. here are the list of thins to improve steering

More front droop (Off power steering)

Smaller tyres up front (off power steering)

Softer compound up front (On power steering)

less front roll bar (On power steering)

Less rear toe (Both)

28mm rears (Both)

Remove the rear roll bar (I dont know why this works on the FW but it does!) The car has to roll at the back to get the front to work properly i think

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Old 10-13-2004, 02:16 AM   #3184
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im using 35 fronts and 37 rears..with the softests front spring (light blue ) and sway bar..the hardest rear spring ( silver 1/8 scale) the new copper sway bar..RRR front and rear hubs..
its still a fight to get it around fast..
Sounds like your rear toe. What is it? And try taking the rear roll bar off

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Old 10-13-2004, 02:46 AM   #3185
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And try taking the rear roll bar off
That would make the on power steering even worse isn't it?
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Old 10-13-2004, 03:25 AM   #3186
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That would make the on power steering even worse isn't it?
Thats what I thought until i took it off.

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Old 10-13-2004, 05:56 AM   #3187
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i run using the efra rules on foams.
i know thew fw was designed for rubbers and slapped together for foams without much thought ( typical kyosho and im starting to get peed!).
More front droop (Off power steering) DONE THAT

Smaller tyres up front (off power steering) DONE THAT.

Softer compound up front (On power steering) ANY SOFTER TAN 35 AND FORGET RUNNING A 20 MIN FINAL

less front roll bar (On power steering) TOOK IT OFF..A REAL PIG,,VERY, VERY TWITCHY

Less rear toe (Both)NEED THE GRIP..2.5DEG MIN

28mm rears (Both), WILL UPSET THE SPLIT

Remove the rear roll bar DOESNT SUIT MY STYLE..TO MUCH IN THE FAST, QUICK DIRECTION CHANGES ON OUR TRACK. YOU ARE IN SECOND
GEAR AND HAVE TO GO THROUGH 2 CHCANES,,VERY HAIRY..

Pushing on or off power? OFF AND HIGH SPEED ON

What's your rear toe in? 2.5 MIN
Front and rear camber? 1.5 FRONT, 4 REAR
Are you able to adjust the rear roll center with the RRR hubs NOPE..USED THE LOWER BLOCKS AND DIDNT IMPROVE, PREFER THE HIGHER REAR BLOCKS,,
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Old 10-13-2004, 06:42 AM   #3188
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im using 35 fronts and 37 rears..with the softests front spring (light blue ) and sway bar..the hardest rear spring ( silver 1/8 scale) the new copper sway bar..RRR front and rear hubs..
its still a fight to get it around fast..
have you tried standing up the shocks?
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Old 10-13-2004, 07:34 AM   #3189
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yes i have tried to stand the shockers....no better
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Hmmm.... 2 deg toe in is MAX for me.

30K diff oil in the back? with front one way?

I think you have tried everything. Try the RRR that supposed to be better ....LOL... (i might join you!)

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MikeCatts, I think you are running a too softer compound, try going 37 front 40 rear.
I ran at a cool 11C with 40 front and rear with only 1.5 degree rear toe in and the gold bar, the rear was planted but the front pushed a bit under hard power, it was with a diff up front and even size tyres.
I'm also running the very soft V-one S springs, Green front, Yellow rear.
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mikecatts, no chassis is suitable to any and all driving style. I do know that the FW-05R consistantly TQ at the Silverstone Raceway and have done very well in other places. The RRR looks to be another top performer. I have both the FW-05R and the RRR and I like them both and I do better with either the FW or RRR depends on the track. The FW does seem to do better with high traction surfaces.
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Old 10-13-2004, 11:44 AM   #3193
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HI ALL.
30K diff oil in the back? YES
with front one way? YES

I think you have tried everything.
Try the RRR that supposed to be better ....LOL... (i might join you!) AM GONG TO
I think you are running a too softer compound, try going 37 front 40 rear. NO GOOD,does the same on all tracks and all compounds...
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HI ALL.
30K diff oil in the back? YES
with front one way? YES

I think you have tried everything.
Try the RRR that supposed to be better ....LOL... (i might join you!) AM GONG TO
I think you are running a too softer compound, try going 37 front 40 rear. NO GOOD,does the same on all tracks and all compounds...
I don't have a clue what you'redoing wrong, I find that I have to run at least one compound harder than the opposition as the car itself produced too much grip.
Maybe the answer is your driving style, you might be too aggresive for the 05, so a belt car may suit you better.
Hope you find the right car soon as buying kit after kit can make you lose interest in the hobby.
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LOL... thats what keeps me interested! RRR coming soon

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