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Old 01-19-2004, 10:54 PM   #1366
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lucky you! so i guess you'll have to help send a care package to all the us poor slobs in the States .

yeah, i see ema's car outfitted with that front kawahara shocktower. kawahara produced a few parts for this car, but to my disappointment they havent dived in like they did for the V One R.

some members here have been saying to get the mugen centax from the get go, i forget if the clutchbell will fit the hpi stock pinions.

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Old 01-19-2004, 11:05 PM   #1367
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lucky you! so i guess you'll have to help send a care package to all the us poor slobs in the States .

yeah, i see ema's car outfitted with that front kawahara shocktower. kawahara produced a few parts for this car, but to my disappointment they havent dived in like they did for the V One R.

some members here have been saying to get the mugen centax from the get go, but i'm curious if the mugen clutchbell will fit the stock pinions.
Not sure about the Mugen advice. It used to be that the Mugen clutch was the best thing going, but now the manufacturers have copied the design so well that only things like spring tension and pad materials really needs to be addressed. If you are really bothered by it you can try the MTX3 grey shoes and the MTX3 hard type spring (or V1RR EVO/Fantom Evolva gold spring). These springs are way tight enuff for most 200mm cars. Once I get the HPI clutch together I can tell ya more, but all the parts look to be in place. May require a little tuning.
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Old 01-19-2004, 11:16 PM   #1368
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ok, keep me posted about the clutch cuz at this rate you'll get your car before i'll even touch mine ...

<sigh> stupid LHS.
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Getting mine tomorrow. Anything else I should pick up with it? Is the lightened chassis out yet and if so, where can I get one? THanks
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Old 01-20-2004, 06:17 AM   #1370
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The car that came second in the 2003 JMRCA weighed in at 1760g ready to run. Was using a light battery pack, light top deck, carbon shocktowers, hollow shafts and Ti screw set. Also these guys has a lightweight 0.8M gearset (prototype or mayby Kawahara part?) installed on the car.











there's some of the stuff HPI has on the Japanese web...including the lite battery...and ti screws....and 4 gear diff...

and top deck....

BTW,thats a new fully adjustable rear sway bar set up....

The .8 lightweight 2 speed is coming......supposed to be 20 grams lighter....


Glad you point a point about the weight....the car IS NOT that heavy........just proves the point about what I said about preconceived notions......


AMG....Welcome aboard..........The only piece of advice I have is this.....Don't worry about the little slop things in the car.....Shim the rear arms if needed......and the top front arms will need a couple of small shims.......HPI has fixed the looseness in the 5mm screws that go in the hubs(for the pillowballs).....

Route the servo wires like they tell you......

Thats it.....and just try the stock set up first.....I added 50,000 to my rear diff also.......

You'll really like the way the car fly's through switchbacks.....



HEY,To my Buddies at HPI USA!!!!!!!

Can we start getting those R40 options into the US!!!!!!!!!

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Old 01-20-2004, 09:32 AM   #1371
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I've found that the perfect shims for the car are the teflon washers used to shim electric motors. They're light wieght, fit perfectly, and you can pack them on to remove all the slop, but because they're teflon, they still allow completely free movement. I beileve Trinity and other companies sell them. Mine came with my Integy motor lathe......never used them tell now.

Thats why I never throw anything away.......never know when you might need it.

Now my car has NO slop anywhere, and if it developes any, one more teflon shim here or there will eliminate it.
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Old 01-20-2004, 03:09 PM   #1372
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Has anyone heard when HPI plans to make the lightened upper deck availible for here in the US. I don't quite understand the "one thing at a time" way they're releasing the hop ups to the US. They certainly aren't waiting till they have enough supply to meet demand, cause many of the other hop ups were out of stock almost immediately after being released.

I can't wait to see some of the other stuff they've got planned.
I think I saw that yesterday from RCMODEL.com.hk (yes, only from HK or Japan)......personally I think that is a very much same upper woven carbon fiber deck like the stock one, except it get a lot of cut out and narrow down..........not much different then the stock one, if you have the right tools, you can download the pictures and cut the original deck to match the shape of this one, or design your own cut out..........

I don't see the lighten one are any stronger, but just lighter cause there are plenty of cutted out area.

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I think I saw that yesterday from RCMODEL.com.hk (yes, only from HK or Japan)


I saw it also. I just thought it was too expensive for what your getting. A couple of cut-outs, naw, I will just keep mine.
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Old 01-20-2004, 03:21 PM   #1374
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Glad you point a point about the weight....the car IS NOT that heavy........just proves the point about what I said about preconceived notions......


AMG....Welcome aboard..........The only piece of advice I have is this.....Don't worry about the little slop things in the car.....Shim the rear arms if needed......and the top front arms will need a couple of small shims.......HPI has fixed the looseness in the 5mm screws that go in the hubs(for the pillowballs).....

Route the servo wires like they tell you......

Thats it.....and just try the stock set up first.....I added 50,000 to my rear diff also.......

You'll really like the way the car fly's through switchbacks.....
Slop really does not bother me. My Kyosho builds with a small amount of slop in some parts (not the ballcups) and I know the MTX3 also has some slop mostly in the rear arms. My V1R runs very well slop or not, as long as it is minor.

I will weigh mine when I am done building, I will be using a light battery pack (self built one) mainly so I can also put my personal transponder on the battery door.

I will be using at least 50K in the rear since it has only 4 gears, and I use 30K with 6 gear diffs normally.
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I saw it also. I just thought it was too expensive for what your getting. A couple of cut-outs, naw, I will just keep mine.
Actually that deck price is about right when you compare it to the yen price of other companies (Kyosho optional deck for the EVO is 4800 yen). However the weigh saving is around 20%, mayby you consider this worth the coin.

3 racing has one coming soon which should run around $25. Looks to be less cut out.



In general I can recommend the quality of 3 racing parts.
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Old 01-20-2004, 03:58 PM   #1376
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Harry speaking of lightened transmissions:





Unsure how light these are yet, but it is claimed 8g and 9g respectively.
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hey what do they have to lighten the up. that is on the market i weighed mine with 3/4 of a tank 2013 roar 1725 long way to go.
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20 Smoke: Could you post a pic of your R40? All ready to race and such.. missing no operational equipment.

I want to see what exactly is weighing your R40 down
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Unsure how light these are yet, but it is claimed 8g and 9g respectively.
The way they lighten up those parts, temps people to maybe try it themselves!

I mean it looks so simple, all they did was drill a few extra holes. Makes you wonder why they didn't do it in the first place.
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Old 01-20-2004, 07:40 PM   #1380
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hey what do they have to lighten the up. that is on the market i weighed mine with 3/4 of a tank 2013 roar 1725 long way to go.
2013 certainly seems extremely high.

Roar measures the car with everything including tires and body minus fuel.

The JMRCA cars weighed around 1760g. The main parts appear to be:

Ti Screwset
Super chassis
Cutout top deck
Hollow shafts fore and aft
Light battery pack
Some carbon, front and rear towers + side braces
Front oneway
Possibly lighter 0.8 Module transmission.
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